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That's from 2012, and as someone mentioned, was in response to a lot of risky hardware projects. More recently, Kickstarter changed their rules to be a lot simp

That's from 2012, and as someone mentioned, was in response to a lot of risky hardware projects. More recently, Kickstarter changed their rules to be a lot simpler. https://www.kickstarter.com/rules https://www.kickstarter.com/rules Perhaps this campaign violates what you perceive as the spirit of Kickstarter, but Kickstarter itself has never had a problem with established companies/entertainers using the platform.

logicallee 12y ago
yeah, who would want to use kickstarter for a risky hardware project! When you can use it as a store by a company that raised more than $10 million, and this time sell a fully completed product with no special rewards or community input. They didn't even try to come up with any rewards this time - at any price, or show any part of how it was designed. it blatantly has nothing to do with the kickstarter spirit whatsoever.
- GuiA 12y ago
  I'm pretty sure the Kickstarter spirit is defined as "whatever the people running Kickstarter want it to be".
- jusben1369 12y ago
  In my experience services that don't change over time are the ones that go away. Kickstarter seems like a fluid concept that continues to evolve. As I look they're passing $5 million so it seems as though the community is responding.
- mikeechoalpha 12y ago
  yeah, you can see how outraged people are by how much they are refusing to support the offering
- jkestner 12y ago
  Well, there's risky and then there's risky. I believe that post was put up at the same time that the LIFX light bulb campaign was prematurely ended at ~$2 million. That project was from someone whose previous KS project was a cardboard lightbox that had missed its shipping date at that point, so I think the likelihood of collateral damage there made Kickstarter pause. (Credit to LIFX that they learned/hired quickly and managed to ship.) Whatever you take the spirit of Kickstarter to mean, I think that Pebble has it. They're grateful for Kickstarter, and foster a user community — launching a new product this way just feels native.
- pkulak 12y ago
  This spirit is better for me. I'll never back another Kickstarter project in the old "spirit". One project failing and taking all my money with it is enough for me. I'm nearly certain that I'll get my watch, so I backed this one.

logicallee 12y ago

yeah, who would want to use kickstarter for a risky hardware project! When you can use it as a store by a company that raised more than $10 million, and this time sell a fully completed product with no special rewards or community input. They didn't even try to come up with any rewards this time - at any price, or show any part of how it was designed. it blatantly has nothing to do with the kickstarter spirit whatsoever.

GuiA 12y ago
I'm pretty sure the Kickstarter spirit is defined as "whatever the people running Kickstarter want it to be".
jusben1369 12y ago
In my experience services that don't change over time are the ones that go away. Kickstarter seems like a fluid concept that continues to evolve. As I look they're passing $5 million so it seems as though the community is responding.
mikeechoalpha 12y ago
yeah, you can see how outraged people are by how much they are refusing to support the offering
jkestner 12y ago
Well, there's risky and then there's risky. I believe that post was put up at the same time that the LIFX light bulb campaign was prematurely ended at ~$2 million. That project was from someone whose previous KS project was a cardboard lightbox that had missed its shipping date at that point, so I think the likelihood of collateral damage there made Kickstarter pause. (Credit to LIFX that they learned/hired quickly and managed to ship.) Whatever you take the spirit of Kickstarter to mean, I think that Pebble has it. They're grateful for Kickstarter, and foster a user community — launching a new product this way just feels native.
pkulak 12y ago
This spirit is better for me. I'll never back another Kickstarter project in the old "spirit". One project failing and taking all my money with it is enough for me. I'm nearly certain that I'll get my watch, so I backed this one.