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>In general, females feel that the birds-eye view of a problem, and the end result, are more relevant than the coding details in between Doesn't this suggest t

>In general, females feel that the birds-eye view of a problem, and the end result, are more relevant than the coding details in between Doesn't this suggest that men are more likely to be wired for programming?

CrLf 17y ago
Actually, doesn't that mean that women don't have what it takes to actually be a programmer? The devil is in the details, as they say. Not stating a fact, just pointing out that in the context of a technical profession, that citation actually sounds derogatory.
- spamizbad 17y ago
  Since when has dithering over details been recognized as a favorable trait in programmers? Also, that response was in the context of intro-level CS courses: so if you're fretting over the implementation details of glorified Hello World applications, instead of focusing on the overarching concepts , I'd be inclined to say you'd better change your ways or you won't be a very good programmer.
  - 3pt14159 17y ago
    Better to have an overall view while learning to program, and a penchant for details when implementing one tiny little part of a 1 million line code base that 100 other people are also working on.
  - CrLf 17y ago
    I have three things to say about that: 1. Not every CS graduate will work as a programmer. Many will work in other technical roles within the industry. Do not assume that CS knowledge is only appliable to programming. I graduated from a CS course and I'm currently a sysadmin, and having a CS degree makes me a better professional; 2. Having little interest in the details is usually just common-speak for lack of technical skill. Having the skill/competence and lacking the interest is seldom found in the same person; 3. It's the introductory classes that lay out the ways in which one faces every programming problem. Not paying attention to detail means allowing bad habits to root themselves. I still remember some of those "details" from my introductory classes to programming 12 years ago, and I frequently other people (otherwise experienced) commiting mistakes that I manage to avoid due to those "details".
forensic 17y ago
Considering it's based on a survey of perception... it's bullshit

CrLf 17y ago

Actually, doesn't that mean that women don't have what it takes to actually be a programmer? The devil is in the details, as they say. Not stating a fact, just pointing out that in the context of a technical profession, that citation actually sounds derogatory.

spamizbad 17y ago
Since when has dithering over details been recognized as a favorable trait in programmers? Also, that response was in the context of intro-level CS courses: so if you're fretting over the implementation details of glorified Hello World applications, instead of focusing on the overarching concepts , I'd be inclined to say you'd better change your ways or you won't be a very good programmer.
- 3pt14159 17y ago
  Better to have an overall view while learning to program, and a penchant for details when implementing one tiny little part of a 1 million line code base that 100 other people are also working on.
- CrLf 17y ago
  I have three things to say about that: 1. Not every CS graduate will work as a programmer. Many will work in other technical roles within the industry. Do not assume that CS knowledge is only appliable to programming. I graduated from a CS course and I'm currently a sysadmin, and having a CS degree makes me a better professional; 2. Having little interest in the details is usually just common-speak for lack of technical skill. Having the skill/competence and lacking the interest is seldom found in the same person; 3. It's the introductory classes that lay out the ways in which one faces every programming problem. Not paying attention to detail means allowing bad habits to root themselves. I still remember some of those "details" from my introductory classes to programming 12 years ago, and I frequently other people (otherwise experienced) commiting mistakes that I manage to avoid due to those "details".

forensic 17y ago

Considering it's based on a survey of perception... it's bullshit