4 ms·

I work remote. I don't understand why you all tolerate this kind of nonsense. Excluding some short-term engagements and occasional visits to client offices, I

I work remote. I don't understand why you all tolerate this kind of nonsense. Excluding some short-term engagements and occasional visits to client offices, I haven't worked in an office on a daily basis since 2008. Every time I go into a client's physical office, it's like walking into somebody's den and finding an 8-track tape recorder, a black-and-white TV set, a rotary phone, and a Betamax. When I go into an office, I don't think "why do people even do this?" I think, "why did people even do this?" It's so archaic that even when I see it happening right in front of my eyes, I have to remind myself that it still isn't over. Finding a remote job is a lot harder than finding a job at a Bay Area startup, because companies which hire remote hire from all over. But it's absolutely worth it. And finding remote clients is relatively easy. Don't subject yourself to this kind of foolishness. There's nothing professional or reasonable about it. It's just a vestigial custom, a primitive ritual which hasn't fully died out yet.

joesmo 12y ago
There are not nearly enough remote jobs currently, though it seems that more companies are wising up. I agree 100% with you on this however. Office work is archaic now and an expense that can be eliminated. Not only do businesses with remote developers save money, but they get more productive developers who can spend 90% of their time coding or on code reviews (that's how much I currently spend). Sadly, many companies just want to micromanage and when asked, will reply with some bullshit about company culture. Let's not kid ourselves. This has nothing to do with company culture or collaborating or fostering any kind of environment. The only reason to not allow remote working is because the company feels it needs to micromanage. I'm certain that there isn't currently any company offering competitive salaries and remote work that isn't inundated with qualified applicants. Not that there is a shortage of qualified engineers in the first place (at least in the US), but the companies that are too stupid to find them would be well served to offer remote work and see those qualified applicants lining up.
cylinder 12y ago
A lot of people aren't like us, they are extroverts and they love going in and seeing everyone, and they hate being at home. Even I as an introvert got depressed being at home everyday and not having somewhere to go. The best is a mix with flexibility. Remote will never apply to everyone and every line of work.
- driverdan 12y ago
  Most cities have coworking spaces. Even if you only work there once a week they're a great for replacing the social aspect of work.
rifung 12y ago
Well, as much as I'd like to work remotely, there aren't that many openings. Plus, I think that it's more difficult to find companies that are willing to allow more junior employees to work remotely.
vhost- 12y ago
I mostly agree with you, but I'm not giving you an upvote because I just went through the following: I worked in an office with an open floor plan. It was freezing all the time, strategists come over every 10 minutes and tap you on the shoulder, someone closed a deal so people break out the whistles and air horns and shit, and when you did work from home for a day, people made you feel guilty. I got tired of it and said "fuck it, I'm looking for a new job". I got a number of interviews from companies of all walks of life, but they all had one thing in common: Programming jobs with the application on Github and the ability to use your own computer for development. So why the fuck not work from home? Well, turns out only one company I interviewed with let people work remotely. In fact, that company is completely remote with no real office. And that's the job I took. You see, these jobs are rare and I sympathize with anyone who is stuck working in an office and wants to work from <insert location here>.

joesmo 12y ago

There are not nearly enough remote jobs currently, though it seems that more companies are wising up. I agree 100% with you on this however. Office work is archaic now and an expense that can be eliminated. Not only do businesses with remote developers save money, but they get more productive developers who can spend 90% of their time coding or on code reviews (that's how much I currently spend). Sadly, many companies just want to micromanage and when asked, will reply with some bullshit about company culture. Let's not kid ourselves. This has nothing to do with company culture or collaborating or fostering any kind of environment. The only reason to not allow remote working is because the company feels it needs to micromanage. I'm certain that there isn't currently any company offering competitive salaries and remote work that isn't inundated with qualified applicants. Not that there is a shortage of qualified engineers in the first place (at least in the US), but the companies that are too stupid to find them would be well served to offer remote work and see those qualified applicants lining up.

cylinder 12y ago

A lot of people aren't like us, they are extroverts and they love going in and seeing everyone, and they hate being at home. Even I as an introvert got depressed being at home everyday and not having somewhere to go. The best is a mix with flexibility. Remote will never apply to everyone and every line of work.

driverdan 12y ago
Most cities have coworking spaces. Even if you only work there once a week they're a great for replacing the social aspect of work.

rifung 12y ago

Well, as much as I'd like to work remotely, there aren't that many openings. Plus, I think that it's more difficult to find companies that are willing to allow more junior employees to work remotely.

vhost- 12y ago

I mostly agree with you, but I'm not giving you an upvote because I just went through the following: I worked in an office with an open floor plan. It was freezing all the time, strategists come over every 10 minutes and tap you on the shoulder, someone closed a deal so people break out the whistles and air horns and shit, and when you did work from home for a day, people made you feel guilty. I got tired of it and said "fuck it, I'm looking for a new job". I got a number of interviews from companies of all walks of life, but they all had one thing in common: Programming jobs with the application on Github and the ability to use your own computer for development. So why the fuck not work from home? Well, turns out only one company I interviewed with let people work remotely. In fact, that company is completely remote with no real office. And that's the job I took. You see, these jobs are rare and I sympathize with anyone who is stuck working in an office and wants to work from <insert location here>.