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I'm wondering where the data came from and how accurate it it is. "In 2012 the Oregon software industry gave jobs to 38 foreign software engineers." Ok so her

I'm wondering where the data came from and how accurate it it is. "In 2012 the Oregon software industry gave jobs to 38 foreign software engineers." Ok so here I am assuming you mean 38 new H1B engineers were hired in 2012. There is no way that could be true, I nearly hired and processed that many H1Bs personally in 2012. I was working with several others with similar or higher numbers. And that's just one company in Oregon. Not trying to nitpick with anecdotal data, but it just seems wrong to me.

kelukelugames 12y ago
This site says that got the data from the government. http://www.salar.ly/ http://www.salar.ly/
ryen 12y ago
The link shows h1bdata.info as a source, which uses data from here: http://www.foreignlaborcert.doleta.gov/performancedata.cfm#dis http://www.foreignlaborcert.doleta.gov/performancedata.cfm#d...
- JeremyMorgan 12y ago
  Yep, and it shows 2,830 H1B applications approved in Oregon in 2012, which sounds more accurate
  - deleted 12y ago
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  - jpatokal 12y ago
    Not all H1Bs are for software engineers though.
- utunga 12y ago
  Does anyone know if this reporting is official base salary or if its total earnings including bonuses. In NY especially that's gonna make a pretty noticeable difference to the averages I'd say.
  - klipt 12y ago
    Yeah, when I looked at my LCA it contained: - Prevailing wage - My actual base salary (higher than above) No sure which of the above they're using for this infographic (I know the actual base salary has to be >= prevailing wage, but is it public?), but when you include stock grants / bonuses / 401k matching, my total compensation is well above both of those numbers.
  - largote 12y ago
    Only base salaries are used for Visa purposes. No equity/bonuses are included.
aceperry 12y ago
According to his website: "All data is from h1bdata.info" (http://h1bdata.info/ http://h1bdata.info/) I looked at the website briefly, but wasn't sure how he was able to aggregate all of the data.
- fnordfnordfnord 12y ago
  That source leads to here: http://www.foreignlaborcert.doleta.gov/performancedata.cfm#dis http://www.foreignlaborcert.doleta.gov/performancedata.cfm#d...
pkaye 12y ago
There is a public available database of all H1B visa recipients. Includes the company, hire date, salary, etc. It might be mandated by US federal law. I don't have the link on hand at this time.
zaroth 12y ago
So looking at the LCA_FY2012 data on the Foreign Labor Cert government website, it purports to show individual records for each H1-B application, listed by employer, job title, wage, etc. There is an Employer address, and then there are two separate fields for Working Location. So part of the problem is are we looking at where the company is registered, or where the employee is physically working? A second issue is in the 'LCA_CASE_SOC_NAME' - the job title / category. I found 27 categories which are reasonably related to computer software field, including things like 'Graphics Design', 'Computer and Information Systems Managers', 'Network Systems and Data Communications Analyst', etc. If you filter on just the specific 'Computer Software Engineers, Applications' category you will see much less. The 2012 file shows decisions made 10/1/2011 thru 9/28/2012. If I look at data for 'Employer State' of OR, and filter on 27 categories which seem computer/software related, then I see 321 records. If I look at data for 'WorkLoc1_State' for OR with the same categories, I can see 1557 records. You can download it yourself here [1] although it's 70MB and takes several minutes to pull from their servers. [1] - http://www.foreignlaborcert.doleta.gov/docs/py2012_q4/LCA_FY2012_Q4.xlsx http://www.foreignlaborcert.doleta.gov/docs/py2012_q4/LCA_FY...
njx 12y ago
Here is an interactive version https://my.infocaptor.com/dash/mt.php?pa=h1b_metrics_5224efd60df82 https://my.infocaptor.com/dash/mt.php?pa=h1b_metrics_5224efd...
- uberneo 12y ago
  Looks like Infosys is the only route to get H1B
hyperlz 12y ago
http://visadoor.com/h1bvisa-database http://visadoor.com/h1bvisa-database shows 3103 results for 2012. Probably more accurate.
drzaiusapelord 12y ago
H1B is a federal corporate welfare program to address a perceived lack of homegrown IT talent. Its is a regulated and public service. Data like who is hiring and at what salaries are public. Employers do not have a right to secret salaries when using the H1B program. Download the data below and view the RatePer field for salary info: http://www.flcdatacenter.com/download.aspx http://www.flcdatacenter.com/download.aspx older data here: http://www.flcdatacenter.com/caseh1b.aspx http://www.flcdatacenter.com/caseh1b.aspx
- kxo 12y ago
  > address a perceived lack of homegrown IT talent Drive down homegrown market prices by increasing supply.
justizin 12y ago
You nearly hired and processed 38 H1-Bs personally in 2012? How many American Citizens - children of previous immigrants, or of native americans - did you fucking hire?
- oblio 12y ago
  Hmmm... was the Great Melting Pot created just by Native Americans? Not that I have anything against them, but wasn't the whole point of the USA to be a giant blender for people of all nations? How do you think that happened? By only hiring locals?
- istvan__ 12y ago
  It is hard to find the latter because the former almost killed them all. How about just hiring good people?
Kiro 12y ago
Where do you work?

kelukelugames 12y ago

This site says that got the data from the government. http://www.salar.ly/ http://www.salar.ly/

ryen 12y ago

The link shows h1bdata.info as a source, which uses data from here: http://www.foreignlaborcert.doleta.gov/performancedata.cfm#dis http://www.foreignlaborcert.doleta.gov/performancedata.cfm#d...

JeremyMorgan 12y ago
Yep, and it shows 2,830 H1B applications approved in Oregon in 2012, which sounds more accurate
- deleted 12y ago
  [deleted]
- jpatokal 12y ago
  Not all H1Bs are for software engineers though.
utunga 12y ago
Does anyone know if this reporting is official base salary or if its total earnings including bonuses. In NY especially that's gonna make a pretty noticeable difference to the averages I'd say.
- klipt 12y ago
  Yeah, when I looked at my LCA it contained: - Prevailing wage - My actual base salary (higher than above) No sure which of the above they're using for this infographic (I know the actual base salary has to be >= prevailing wage, but is it public?), but when you include stock grants / bonuses / 401k matching, my total compensation is well above both of those numbers.
- largote 12y ago
  Only base salaries are used for Visa purposes. No equity/bonuses are included.

aceperry 12y ago

According to his website: "All data is from h1bdata.info" (http://h1bdata.info/ http://h1bdata.info/) I looked at the website briefly, but wasn't sure how he was able to aggregate all of the data.

fnordfnordfnord 12y ago
That source leads to here: http://www.foreignlaborcert.doleta.gov/performancedata.cfm#dis http://www.foreignlaborcert.doleta.gov/performancedata.cfm#d...

pkaye 12y ago

There is a public available database of all H1B visa recipients. Includes the company, hire date, salary, etc. It might be mandated by US federal law. I don't have the link on hand at this time.

zaroth 12y ago

So looking at the LCA_FY2012 data on the Foreign Labor Cert government website, it purports to show individual records for each H1-B application, listed by employer, job title, wage, etc. There is an Employer address, and then there are two separate fields for Working Location. So part of the problem is are we looking at where the company is registered, or where the employee is physically working? A second issue is in the 'LCA_CASE_SOC_NAME' - the job title / category. I found 27 categories which are reasonably related to computer software field, including things like 'Graphics Design', 'Computer and Information Systems Managers', 'Network Systems and Data Communications Analyst', etc. If you filter on just the specific 'Computer Software Engineers, Applications' category you will see much less. The 2012 file shows decisions made 10/1/2011 thru 9/28/2012. If I look at data for 'Employer State' of OR, and filter on 27 categories which seem computer/software related, then I see 321 records. If I look at data for 'WorkLoc1_State' for OR with the same categories, I can see 1557 records. You can download it yourself here [1] although it's 70MB and takes several minutes to pull from their servers. [1] - http://www.foreignlaborcert.doleta.gov/docs/py2012_q4/LCA_FY2012_Q4.xlsx http://www.foreignlaborcert.doleta.gov/docs/py2012_q4/LCA_FY...

njx 12y ago

Here is an interactive version https://my.infocaptor.com/dash/mt.php?pa=h1b_metrics_5224efd60df82 https://my.infocaptor.com/dash/mt.php?pa=h1b_metrics_5224efd...

uberneo 12y ago
Looks like Infosys is the only route to get H1B

hyperlz 12y ago

http://visadoor.com/h1bvisa-database http://visadoor.com/h1bvisa-database shows 3103 results for 2012. Probably more accurate.

drzaiusapelord 12y ago

H1B is a federal corporate welfare program to address a perceived lack of homegrown IT talent. Its is a regulated and public service. Data like who is hiring and at what salaries are public. Employers do not have a right to secret salaries when using the H1B program. Download the data below and view the RatePer field for salary info: http://www.flcdatacenter.com/download.aspx http://www.flcdatacenter.com/download.aspx older data here: http://www.flcdatacenter.com/caseh1b.aspx http://www.flcdatacenter.com/caseh1b.aspx

kxo 12y ago
> address a perceived lack of homegrown IT talent Drive down homegrown market prices by increasing supply.

justizin 12y ago

You nearly hired and processed 38 H1-Bs personally in 2012? How many American Citizens - children of previous immigrants, or of native americans - did you fucking hire?

oblio 12y ago
Hmmm... was the Great Melting Pot created just by Native Americans? Not that I have anything against them, but wasn't the whole point of the USA to be a giant blender for people of all nations? How do you think that happened? By only hiring locals?
istvan__ 12y ago
It is hard to find the latter because the former almost killed them all. How about just hiring good people?

Kiro 12y ago

Where do you work?