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Alternatively, you could look at what % raise a former H1-b visa holder receives when he gets his greencard. I heard it can be 2x-3x, but I've never seen a for

by fsk 12y ago

Alternatively, you could look at what % raise a former H1-b visa holder receives when he gets his greencard. I heard it can be 2x-3x, but I've never seen a formal analysis.

pslam 12y ago
It is illegal to pay an H1-B Visa Holder differently to the prevailing wage. Converting to a Green Card should have no effect on your pay, and if it does, the employers are committing fraud. You may have a side-effect of increased pay due to having more positions open to you. Holding an H1-B restricts you to a specific job description. For example, if you were a plain ordinary "Software Engineer" with nobody reporting to you, then you are not normally allowed to move to a role where you would have reports. This can be overcome with due-process and lawyers etc, but the basic idea is an H1-B worker is coming to the US to fill a job role not just a job. So, when you convert to holding a Green Card, you can get promoted into positions which weren't previously open to you. You get the pay increase by being a better engineer and getting the better job.
- fiatmoney 12y ago
  It's illegal to hire H1-Bs in preference to citizen workers, yet that goes on all the time.
- TheCoelacanth 12y ago
  It's also illegal to commit murder in the US. Yet it still happens ~14,000 times per year.
- ild 12y ago
  Many foreign worker are brought on L1. No minimal comp. requirements.
npalli 12y ago
Pretty sure 2x-3x number is bullshit. H1-B visas are transferable between employers. If someone is paying you 1/2 or 1/3 the market rate, it pretty much a given that some other employer will easily pay you 20-30% more and hire you away. I would say 20% is probably the higher end of increase, if any.
nikhizzle 12y ago
Former h1b here, now green card, soon citizen. I got a 0% raise when I got my green card. Have never heard of anything like this either amongst 10s of friends with h1b visas.
- fsk 12y ago
  The one person I spoke with got a 3x raise when they won the greencard lottery. That's just one data point and it was 15 years ago.
hyperlz 12y ago
Looking at http://visadoor.com/companies/google-inc http://visadoor.com/companies/google-inc for eg. doesn't look all that much different. May be only by ~10K, but that is probably expected between H1B and PERM.

by fsk 12y ago

Alternatively, you could look at what % raise a former H1-b visa holder receives when he gets his greencard. I heard it can be 2x-3x, but I've never seen a formal analysis.

pslam 12y ago

It is illegal to pay an H1-B Visa Holder differently to the prevailing wage. Converting to a Green Card should have no effect on your pay, and if it does, the employers are committing fraud. You may have a side-effect of increased pay due to having more positions open to you. Holding an H1-B restricts you to a specific job description. For example, if you were a plain ordinary "Software Engineer" with nobody reporting to you, then you are not normally allowed to move to a role where you would have reports. This can be overcome with due-process and lawyers etc, but the basic idea is an H1-B worker is coming to the US to fill a job role not just a job. So, when you convert to holding a Green Card, you can get promoted into positions which weren't previously open to you. You get the pay increase by being a better engineer and getting the better job.

fiatmoney 12y ago
It's illegal to hire H1-Bs in preference to citizen workers, yet that goes on all the time.
TheCoelacanth 12y ago
It's also illegal to commit murder in the US. Yet it still happens ~14,000 times per year.
ild 12y ago
Many foreign worker are brought on L1. No minimal comp. requirements.

npalli 12y ago

Pretty sure 2x-3x number is bullshit. H1-B visas are transferable between employers. If someone is paying you 1/2 or 1/3 the market rate, it pretty much a given that some other employer will easily pay you 20-30% more and hire you away. I would say 20% is probably the higher end of increase, if any.

nikhizzle 12y ago

Former h1b here, now green card, soon citizen. I got a 0% raise when I got my green card. Have never heard of anything like this either amongst 10s of friends with h1b visas.

fsk 12y ago
The one person I spoke with got a 3x raise when they won the greencard lottery. That's just one data point and it was 15 years ago.

hyperlz 12y ago

Looking at http://visadoor.com/companies/google-inc http://visadoor.com/companies/google-inc for eg. doesn't look all that much different. May be only by ~10K, but that is probably expected between H1B and PERM.