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By whose definition? So if a site has elements on a page they do not want to be immediately seen their only choice is to not distribute the content? So if your

By whose definition? So if a site has elements on a page they do not want to be immediately seen their only choice is to not distribute the content? So if your circumventing a script that is not the same as circumventing a program? I look at this way, if it does not occur to the common user to do so then it is "hacking". Not in any nefarious/sinister sense but the term still should apply.

edwintorok 12y ago
If it is true that people visiting with Noscript or javascript disabled would see the button immediately then it is a design flaw of the ticketing system, not hacking. At least they should've used javascript to generate the link and show it as opposed to hiding it on page load.
- fWnApHU2PY6CPA 12y ago
  Full disclosure, I don't mean to present the Noscript/Disabled Javascript comment as fact – I read that here: https://www.reddit.com/r/BurningMan/comments/2wieta/did_you_cheat_the_system_with_the_hidden_link/corv4g9 https://www.reddit.com/r/BurningMan/comments/2wieta/did_you_... EDIT: Typo
blueskin_ 12y ago
Never trust the client or the data they send. Talk about a rookie mistake.
mindslight 12y ago
> if it does not occur to the common user to do so then it is "hacking". This is the path to madness (and it's the one the "justice" system is on). Adblock? Hacking. Network connection blipped? Hacking. Using a new browser that better protects your privacy? Hacking. Changing number in URL? Hacking. Using a VPN? Hacking. Leaving page open for months in a forgotten tab? Hacking. Running any program that isn't a web browser? Hacking. If our society is to have a digital future, the only sane definition is congruent to ownership and control - your computer functions wholly as your agent, and their server functions as theirs. Servers must be properly configured to enforce the desired business rules, and not doing so means different business rules are in effect.
Torgo 12y ago
I'm going with "plausible deniability." I have done this by accident by using a site with Javascript turned off (heck, I have coded something like this.) That's what happens when your code relies on client-side behavior that's not guaranteed.

edwintorok 12y ago

If it is true that people visiting with Noscript or javascript disabled would see the button immediately then it is a design flaw of the ticketing system, not hacking. At least they should've used javascript to generate the link and show it as opposed to hiding it on page load.

fWnApHU2PY6CPA 12y ago
Full disclosure, I don't mean to present the Noscript/Disabled Javascript comment as fact – I read that here: https://www.reddit.com/r/BurningMan/comments/2wieta/did_you_cheat_the_system_with_the_hidden_link/corv4g9 https://www.reddit.com/r/BurningMan/comments/2wieta/did_you_... EDIT: Typo

blueskin_ 12y ago

Never trust the client or the data they send. Talk about a rookie mistake.

mindslight 12y ago

> if it does not occur to the common user to do so then it is "hacking". This is the path to madness (and it's the one the "justice" system is on). Adblock? Hacking. Network connection blipped? Hacking. Using a new browser that better protects your privacy? Hacking. Changing number in URL? Hacking. Using a VPN? Hacking. Leaving page open for months in a forgotten tab? Hacking. Running any program that isn't a web browser? Hacking. If our society is to have a digital future, the only sane definition is congruent to ownership and control - your computer functions wholly as your agent, and their server functions as theirs. Servers must be properly configured to enforce the desired business rules, and not doing so means different business rules are in effect.

Torgo 12y ago

I'm going with "plausible deniability." I have done this by accident by using a site with Javascript turned off (heck, I have coded something like this.) That's what happens when your code relies on client-side behavior that's not guaranteed.