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I gotta say, Greenwald with all the good he does shining light on things, really bothers me the way he misrepresents Sam Harris. He basically misleads people on

I gotta say, Greenwald with all the good he does shining light on things, really bothers me the way he misrepresents Sam Harris. He basically misleads people on what Sam Harris says about Islam and it worries me that Greenwald may be a little too loose with facts in other areas of his reporting.

logn 12y ago
Here is a somewhat heated and very informative 3 hour interview in which pundit Cenk Uygur talks to Sam Harris about these criticisms -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVl3BJoEoAU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVl3BJoEoAU
- michaelbuddy 12y ago
  good share. saw that not long ago.
lern_too_spel 12y ago
He is absolutely loose with the facts. To this day, he doesn't know what PRISM is, unlike nearly everybody else in the press. The leaks would have been better managed by almost any other reporter.
michaelbuddy 12y ago
Nice, I get downvotes for having a balanced opinion and statements that can be fact checked quite easily.
- t_7u_ol8 12y ago
  We mustn't allow the clarity of truth to be muddied by facts. What are you, an NSA puppet or something?
meowface 12y ago
I attempted to research this issue, and as far as I can tell Greenwald did not misrepresent Harris' opinion. I found the full context of the following quotes by Harris, which Greenwald presented, and they mean exactly what they look like: >"We should profile Muslims, or anyone who looks like he or she could conceivably be Muslim." >"We are not at war with terrorism. We are at war with Islam." >"The erection of a mosque upon the ashes of this atrocity will also be viewed by many millions of Muslims as a victory — and as a sign that the liberal values of the West are synonymous with decadence and cowardice." >"Unless liberals realize that there are tens of millions of people in the Muslim world who are far scarier than Dick Cheney, they will be unable to protect civilization from its genuine enemies." Plus several more along those lines. I agree with both Harris and Greenwald to varying extents here, but where exactly did Greenwald mislead people on what Harris has said about Islam? One may think Harris is right or wrong and may disagree with Greenwald taking the stance that Harris is wrong, but I think Greenwald painted an accurate picture of what Harris thinks about the issue.
snowwrestler 12y ago
Greenwald has sometimes been a bit loose with facts throughout his writing history. He's more of an opinion writer than a straight journalist, which typically means a faster writing cycle and less editorial oversight--both of which can result in mangled facts. Snowden approached him because of his attitude and willingness to stand up to the government, but also worked with reporters like Barton Gellman.

logn 12y ago

Here is a somewhat heated and very informative 3 hour interview in which pundit Cenk Uygur talks to Sam Harris about these criticisms -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVl3BJoEoAU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVl3BJoEoAU

michaelbuddy 12y ago
good share. saw that not long ago.

lern_too_spel 12y ago

He is absolutely loose with the facts. To this day, he doesn't know what PRISM is, unlike nearly everybody else in the press. The leaks would have been better managed by almost any other reporter.

michaelbuddy 12y ago

Nice, I get downvotes for having a balanced opinion and statements that can be fact checked quite easily.

t_7u_ol8 12y ago
We mustn't allow the clarity of truth to be muddied by facts. What are you, an NSA puppet or something?

meowface 12y ago

I attempted to research this issue, and as far as I can tell Greenwald did not misrepresent Harris' opinion. I found the full context of the following quotes by Harris, which Greenwald presented, and they mean exactly what they look like: >"We should profile Muslims, or anyone who looks like he or she could conceivably be Muslim." >"We are not at war with terrorism. We are at war with Islam." >"The erection of a mosque upon the ashes of this atrocity will also be viewed by many millions of Muslims as a victory — and as a sign that the liberal values of the West are synonymous with decadence and cowardice." >"Unless liberals realize that there are tens of millions of people in the Muslim world who are far scarier than Dick Cheney, they will be unable to protect civilization from its genuine enemies." Plus several more along those lines. I agree with both Harris and Greenwald to varying extents here, but where exactly did Greenwald mislead people on what Harris has said about Islam? One may think Harris is right or wrong and may disagree with Greenwald taking the stance that Harris is wrong, but I think Greenwald painted an accurate picture of what Harris thinks about the issue.

snowwrestler 12y ago

Greenwald has sometimes been a bit loose with facts throughout his writing history. He's more of an opinion writer than a straight journalist, which typically means a faster writing cycle and less editorial oversight--both of which can result in mangled facts. Snowden approached him because of his attitude and willingness to stand up to the government, but also worked with reporters like Barton Gellman.