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Such strong language, and such vitriol. If you really believe this, you need to recognize that sometimes the best people are fleeing a bad situation -- a situa

by davidu 12y ago

Such strong language, and such vitriol. If you really believe this, you need to recognize that sometimes the best people are fleeing a bad situation -- a situation that they were a victim of. I don't really know the details of what happened at KP, but I am not surprised that discrimination (deliberate or otherwise) exists in venture capital. Did it happen to her? I don't know. Will the real truth ever come out? Probably not. Are there multiple versions of the real truth? Probably. But you are calling for her termination. For something unrelated to her current job. Her resume and academic achievements place her in the exceptionally accomplished category, so to casually describe her as toxic, without first-hand experiences, seems antagonistic and trollish, at best. She can't control what an anonymous Reddit employee might or might not do. That's no reason to fire her.

jgoah 12y ago
His comment history is filled with him being far more rude than is necessary. He's either a troll or an asshole. Sucks that he's here.
- mahranch 12y ago
  Thanks for stalking me instead of taking my comment at face value (I wonder if that's a new, evolving form of the ad hominem logical fallacy). It's funny, actually. I've never seen so many downvotes flying on hackernews as I have in this thread. Not my comment, this is actually my first downvoted comment on this website in 2 years (which would contradict your claim of me being "a troll"), but watching this thread proves it's a hot button issue for many people. I'm a "she" by the way. And no, my comment history isn't littered with rude comments. I may speak frankly and honestly which is often confused with being rude, especially to those who are extremely sensitive to such things, but the hard truth should never be considered "rude", it should be welcomed. Warts and all.
  - saraid216 12y ago
    If you want your truths welcomed, don't make them hard. Is that a hard enough truth for you to swallow?
- alain94040 12y ago
  I had a quick look at her last 50 comments or so, they look fine to me. Can you provide some more specific evidence of your claim?
mahranch 12y ago
> But you are calling for her termination. For something unrelated to her current job. I am calling for her termination for something on-going with her current job and related to her old job. Did you not read the article? A Reddit employee asked the defense to subpena more employees because of conflicts at her new job. I highly doubt the employee was "trolling" the defense with his or her request (more than half of reddit's staff is female). There is obviously something of substance there and I think that combined with her prior experience is telling of the toxicity she is bringing with her wherever she goes. I don't care if she's in the right or wrong, I only care about reddit since it's a website I use every day and have for years. I would not want a CEO with such problems and baggage following them around heading up any company I'm a part of or I enjoy. It's like that one kid in school who always said they hated "drama" yet always found themselves smack-dab in the middle of it. They may have had no part in the drama, but it followed them around. They were a toxic presence and that's exactly what's begun to happen with Ellen Pao according to this article's bit about reddit. More than that, it's strange that KP hasn't settled. That's something that, if there was actually evidence, even mildly strong "iffy" evidence, they would want to do immediately. They wouldn't let it move to trial. Unless they had evidence which supports their own side of the story. Again, that's largely irrelevant to me. Even if she's 100% correct, I wouldn't want someone with all that baggage heading up my company. CEOs need to be fortitude personified.

by davidu 12y ago

jgoah 12y ago

His comment history is filled with him being far more rude than is necessary. He's either a troll or an asshole. Sucks that he's here.

mahranch 12y ago
Thanks for stalking me instead of taking my comment at face value (I wonder if that's a new, evolving form of the ad hominem logical fallacy). It's funny, actually. I've never seen so many downvotes flying on hackernews as I have in this thread. Not my comment, this is actually my first downvoted comment on this website in 2 years (which would contradict your claim of me being "a troll"), but watching this thread proves it's a hot button issue for many people. I'm a "she" by the way. And no, my comment history isn't littered with rude comments. I may speak frankly and honestly which is often confused with being rude, especially to those who are extremely sensitive to such things, but the hard truth should never be considered "rude", it should be welcomed. Warts and all.
- saraid216 12y ago
  If you want your truths welcomed, don't make them hard. Is that a hard enough truth for you to swallow?
alain94040 12y ago
I had a quick look at her last 50 comments or so, they look fine to me. Can you provide some more specific evidence of your claim?

mahranch 12y ago

> But you are calling for her termination. For something unrelated to her current job. I am calling for her termination for something on-going with her current job and related to her old job. Did you not read the article? A Reddit employee asked the defense to subpena more employees because of conflicts at her new job. I highly doubt the employee was "trolling" the defense with his or her request (more than half of reddit's staff is female). There is obviously something of substance there and I think that combined with her prior experience is telling of the toxicity she is bringing with her wherever she goes. I don't care if she's in the right or wrong, I only care about reddit since it's a website I use every day and have for years. I would not want a CEO with such problems and baggage following them around heading up any company I'm a part of or I enjoy. It's like that one kid in school who always said they hated "drama" yet always found themselves smack-dab in the middle of it. They may have had no part in the drama, but it followed them around. They were a toxic presence and that's exactly what's begun to happen with Ellen Pao according to this article's bit about reddit. More than that, it's strange that KP hasn't settled. That's something that, if there was actually evidence, even mildly strong "iffy" evidence, they would want to do immediately. They wouldn't let it move to trial. Unless they had evidence which supports their own side of the story. Again, that's largely irrelevant to me. Even if she's 100% correct, I wouldn't want someone with all that baggage heading up my company. CEOs need to be fortitude personified.