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No, we had 2 submissions - One headed by my partner with 4 founders, another headed by me with 2 founders. The other founders are all men. I am the first face

by tianaco 17y ago

No, we had 2 submissions - One headed by my partner with 4 founders, another headed by me with 2 founders. The other founders are all men. I am the first face on our application video. We did that to set us apart from the rest of the videos. I'm done with my applications, and confident that we made good applications for the people that we initially thought were going to review them... but not for unknown founders whose personal biases we are unaware of, but I can only assume based on my personal experiences with men in tech. Re: "chip on my shoulder" would you be offended if your peers wouldn't look you in the face? how about if they re-asked your business partners the same questions they asked you, only to get the same response?

Major_Grooves 17y ago
Sorry but if you've got breasts then you'll have to get used to guys looking at them. There was a recent study from NZ that found that 47% of men's first glances at a women were towards their breasts. It's just biology. Also take in to account your average male coder might not have seen any for a while - well it is male dominated (sorry - "got to wait for the liquidity event to have a liquidity event!")! ;) wrt to asking your co-founders the same questions, my guess is that you are so paranoid about the "not looking in the eyes" thing that you appear unconfident and unsure, so people look to your co-founders for confirmation.
- tianaco 17y ago
  It's not about them looking at my breasts. More often they look away from me as if I don't exist at all.
  - chrysb 17y ago
    Nerds are afraid of things they can't understand.
  - mattm 17y ago
    Keep in mind, these are IT guys. I usually have to remind myself to look in someone's eyes when talking, be it man or woman. If I'm focusing on something else when someone is talking to me I might not even look at them at all. From what I've read about the differences between men and women, women are MUCH MUCH more likely to pick up subtle body language gestures compared to men and try to analyze what they mean. Try not to take these things personally. Many times it might not even have anything to do with you.
    - chrysb 17y ago
      Exactly. Lots of them are "awkward" or not "socially adept". Get used to it :)
- Major_Grooves 17y ago
  btw for the down-voters, I was just being pragmatic. A 47% chance in a 95% male industry, makes a pretty good chance of some guy trying to sneak a peek. The quote was from pg's talk at Startup School last weekend, where he mentioned that having a startup doesn't make you popular with girls. http://www.paulgraham.com/really.html http://www.paulgraham.com/really.html Apologies if it came across as offensive.
Major_Grooves 17y ago
OK, I'm sorry for asking if it was about your breasts. :/ I really don't think this has anything to do with your gender. Networking and just speaking to people is surprisingly difficult. If you are already expecting people not to speak to you properly then you will be giving loads of negative body language saying that you are unconfident. I know because I have been in the same situation many times. My background in pharmaceuticals, and when I turn up to conferences I am about 10-20 years younger than everyone else. I feel incredibly paranoid about it and my lack of self-confidence is quite obvious. I just feel "unimportant". I've even had organiser laugh at me when they realised I was one of the speakers at a conference. They told me I was too young! Yeah, that really set me up well for that conference! When I go to technology and PR/marketing events I feel great as I fit in with people there and it is so much easier to network and discuss our startup. Things like Astia will give you guidance on pitching. I;m sure some of the skills are transferable in to networking.
- tianaco 17y ago
  The thing is, I'm ridiculously outgoing. I even have my own event production company in New York City. I'm excellent at speaking with people. I still need work on pitching, but I have no problem talking to everyone... since that's crucial in my other line of work.

by tianaco 17y ago

Major_Grooves 17y ago

Sorry but if you've got breasts then you'll have to get used to guys looking at them. There was a recent study from NZ that found that 47% of men's first glances at a women were towards their breasts. It's just biology. Also take in to account your average male coder might not have seen any for a while - well it is male dominated (sorry - "got to wait for the liquidity event to have a liquidity event!")! ;) wrt to asking your co-founders the same questions, my guess is that you are so paranoid about the "not looking in the eyes" thing that you appear unconfident and unsure, so people look to your co-founders for confirmation.

tianaco 17y ago
It's not about them looking at my breasts. More often they look away from me as if I don't exist at all.
- chrysb 17y ago
  Nerds are afraid of things they can't understand.
- mattm 17y ago
  Keep in mind, these are IT guys. I usually have to remind myself to look in someone's eyes when talking, be it man or woman. If I'm focusing on something else when someone is talking to me I might not even look at them at all. From what I've read about the differences between men and women, women are MUCH MUCH more likely to pick up subtle body language gestures compared to men and try to analyze what they mean. Try not to take these things personally. Many times it might not even have anything to do with you.
  - chrysb 17y ago
    Exactly. Lots of them are "awkward" or not "socially adept". Get used to it :)
Major_Grooves 17y ago
btw for the down-voters, I was just being pragmatic. A 47% chance in a 95% male industry, makes a pretty good chance of some guy trying to sneak a peek. The quote was from pg's talk at Startup School last weekend, where he mentioned that having a startup doesn't make you popular with girls. http://www.paulgraham.com/really.html http://www.paulgraham.com/really.html Apologies if it came across as offensive.

Major_Grooves 17y ago

OK, I'm sorry for asking if it was about your breasts. :/ I really don't think this has anything to do with your gender. Networking and just speaking to people is surprisingly difficult. If you are already expecting people not to speak to you properly then you will be giving loads of negative body language saying that you are unconfident. I know because I have been in the same situation many times. My background in pharmaceuticals, and when I turn up to conferences I am about 10-20 years younger than everyone else. I feel incredibly paranoid about it and my lack of self-confidence is quite obvious. I just feel "unimportant". I've even had organiser laugh at me when they realised I was one of the speakers at a conference. They told me I was too young! Yeah, that really set me up well for that conference! When I go to technology and PR/marketing events I feel great as I fit in with people there and it is so much easier to network and discuss our startup. Things like Astia will give you guidance on pitching. I;m sure some of the skills are transferable in to networking.

tianaco 17y ago
The thing is, I'm ridiculously outgoing. I even have my own event production company in New York City. I'm excellent at speaking with people. I still need work on pitching, but I have no problem talking to everyone... since that's crucial in my other line of work.