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i'm going to give you some tough love right now, because you've sort of got the wrong concept of what a 'security job' is in your head. first of all - why the

i'm going to give you some tough love right now, because you've sort of got the wrong concept of what a 'security job' is in your head. first of all - why the hell are you waiting for someone to give you permission to start doing this job? if you want to do this job, just start fucking doing it. contribute to security mailing lists and keep an eye out for opportunities. write articles. blog. go to events. write code, open source it. contribute documentation if you can't code. sell yourself as a consultant. appear to know what the hell you're talking about. DO THE JOB. if you don't actively participate in a community nobody is going to give a shit about you, much less hand you a career with a pretty bow on it.

e_modad 12y ago
Such great advice. Don't wait for permission just get started.
tfg4k 12y ago
I have started a small DBA in my area to provide services to small businesses here. I have been working on developing it but I am having a hard time selling it without scaring the crap out of the prospective clients. I guess what I am saying is that I have been doing the job for years. Just not getting paid for it and was trying to dig out two things in the OP: 1)What the disconnect between working on your own and getting paid for doing the work was. 2)there was a different area I could/should focus on given my disadvantages(financial, disabled, etc.) Big data and analytics are fascinating to me for example, but only because of the implications and uses of those kinds of skills I can see in a Security related capacity. I wanted to find out if someone would yell, "You need to learn 'X' because it's useful both in some Security roles and you can work doing that as your day job at the same time." Hope that makes sense.
tfg4k 12y ago
>if you don't actively participate in a community nobody is going to give a shit about you, much less hand you a career with a pretty bow on it. Nope, obviously. They sure will post on a comment thread about it though. Sorry, This struck me as a bit over the top with the presumptions, tone, etc..

e_modad 12y ago

Such great advice. Don't wait for permission just get started.

tfg4k 12y ago

I have started a small DBA in my area to provide services to small businesses here. I have been working on developing it but I am having a hard time selling it without scaring the crap out of the prospective clients. I guess what I am saying is that I have been doing the job for years. Just not getting paid for it and was trying to dig out two things in the OP: 1)What the disconnect between working on your own and getting paid for doing the work was. 2)there was a different area I could/should focus on given my disadvantages(financial, disabled, etc.) Big data and analytics are fascinating to me for example, but only because of the implications and uses of those kinds of skills I can see in a Security related capacity. I wanted to find out if someone would yell, "You need to learn 'X' because it's useful both in some Security roles and you can work doing that as your day job at the same time." Hope that makes sense.

tfg4k 12y ago

>if you don't actively participate in a community nobody is going to give a shit about you, much less hand you a career with a pretty bow on it. Nope, obviously. They sure will post on a comment thread about it though. Sorry, This struck me as a bit over the top with the presumptions, tone, etc..