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Yes a black slate on which you cannot see where you draw... have you ever tried those? This product is more similar to a Cintiq which is 1000+ value Astropad b

Yes a black slate on which you cannot see where you draw... have you ever tried those? This product is more similar to a Cintiq which is 1000+ value Astropad brings the Cintiq experience to your iPad http://www.imore.com/astropad-brings-cintiq-experience-your-ipad http://www.imore.com/astropad-brings-cintiq-experience-your-... Astropad Is An App That Pretty Much Replaces Graphics Tablets http://gizmodo.com/astropad-is-an-app-that-pretty-much-replaces-graphics-t-1686931534 http://gizmodo.com/astropad-is-an-app-that-pretty-much-repla...

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rhinoceraptor 12y ago
Just like typing on a physical keyboard, you're not supposed to look at the tablet while using it. After you use a regular graphics tablet for a while you develop the muscle memory required to use it accurately.
- gdonelli 12y ago
  That is true, but it is not very intuitive and people still buy Cintiq because the direct manipulation is a really experience.
Ezhik 12y ago
What about palm rejection, precision, pressure sensitivity? I'll be honest, I'm not much of an artist. I know plenty of people who use graphics tablets, though, and I just don't see them trading away the three things I mentioned above for a screen. This does seem like a cool thing, and I'd love to test it with my Pencil by 53, I just can't justify it at that price.
muyuu 12y ago
It cannot be compared to either really. The input precision is pitiful compared to either, although you do see where you are drawing as a plus vs a cheap blank slate pad.
nacs 12y ago
There's no way this compares to a Cintiq. Cintiq has far higher accuracy compared to the Astropad and Cintiq also has 2048+ levels of pressure sensitivity. Also, input lag with actual tablets/Cintiqs will be far less than the Astropad. For casual sketching/scribbling, the Astropad may be OK but for professional level work, nothing comes close to Wacom-powered tablets (and, unfortunately, won't anytime soon due to Wacom's patents).
- mintplant 12y ago
  It doesn't have to be better than a Cintiq, it just has to be closer than an equivalent dedicated graphics tablet at the same price point. I think it's a valid comparison.
  - nacs 12y ago
    Except this doesn't come close to any dedicated graphics tablet, let alone one of the most high-end tablets you can get like a Cintiq so the comparison is really bad. All real graphics tablets, even ones in the <$100 range, have pressure sensitivity unlike the Astropad and the accuracy is far higher with real tablets.
    - wanderingstan 12y ago
      You're conflating a lot of things here. * Astropad does have pressure sensitivity via the supported pens. * Astropad does provide a visible screen like a cintiq at a much lower cost. How can you clame it "doesn't come close to a desicated graphics tablet" when you obviously haven't tried it in the preferred setup of iPad + pressure sensitive pen? I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just saying ita speculation at this point.
- mronge 12y ago
  There are styluses for the iPad with 2048 levels of pressure, the Cintiq still does have better accuracy but the iPad tech is getting better all the time. Alot of pro artists are using Astropad now, in fact we even had a Pixar animator use and loved it! PS: We are especially excited for the rumored iPad Pro and stylus

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rhinoceraptor 12y ago

Just like typing on a physical keyboard, you're not supposed to look at the tablet while using it. After you use a regular graphics tablet for a while you develop the muscle memory required to use it accurately.

gdonelli 12y ago
That is true, but it is not very intuitive and people still buy Cintiq because the direct manipulation is a really experience.

Ezhik 12y ago

What about palm rejection, precision, pressure sensitivity? I'll be honest, I'm not much of an artist. I know plenty of people who use graphics tablets, though, and I just don't see them trading away the three things I mentioned above for a screen. This does seem like a cool thing, and I'd love to test it with my Pencil by 53, I just can't justify it at that price.

muyuu 12y ago

It cannot be compared to either really. The input precision is pitiful compared to either, although you do see where you are drawing as a plus vs a cheap blank slate pad.

nacs 12y ago

There's no way this compares to a Cintiq. Cintiq has far higher accuracy compared to the Astropad and Cintiq also has 2048+ levels of pressure sensitivity. Also, input lag with actual tablets/Cintiqs will be far less than the Astropad. For casual sketching/scribbling, the Astropad may be OK but for professional level work, nothing comes close to Wacom-powered tablets (and, unfortunately, won't anytime soon due to Wacom's patents).

mintplant 12y ago
It doesn't have to be better than a Cintiq, it just has to be closer than an equivalent dedicated graphics tablet at the same price point. I think it's a valid comparison.
- nacs 12y ago
  Except this doesn't come close to any dedicated graphics tablet, let alone one of the most high-end tablets you can get like a Cintiq so the comparison is really bad. All real graphics tablets, even ones in the <$100 range, have pressure sensitivity unlike the Astropad and the accuracy is far higher with real tablets.
  - wanderingstan 12y ago
    You're conflating a lot of things here. * Astropad does have pressure sensitivity via the supported pens. * Astropad does provide a visible screen like a cintiq at a much lower cost. How can you clame it "doesn't come close to a desicated graphics tablet" when you obviously haven't tried it in the preferred setup of iPad + pressure sensitive pen? I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just saying ita speculation at this point.
mronge 12y ago
There are styluses for the iPad with 2048 levels of pressure, the Cintiq still does have better accuracy but the iPad tech is getting better all the time. Alot of pro artists are using Astropad now, in fact we even had a Pixar animator use and loved it! PS: We are especially excited for the rumored iPad Pro and stylus