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A very nice reminder that there's no such thing as code without bugs.

by i2 12y ago

stefantalpalaru 12y ago
I see it as a reminder not to run software than you cannot patch yourself.
- k-mcgrady 12y ago
  So unless you're a software developer don't use software?
  - stefantalpalaru 12y ago
    Unless you're a software developer, don't call yourself a "hacker" and don't waste your time on Hacker News.
    - grubles 12y ago
      "Hacking" isn't exclusive to computers and software. Also, at the time of writing this, the #1 article on Hacker News is "Most types of cancer not due to “bad luck” [pdf]" which has little to do with computers or software.
      - stefantalpalaru 12y ago
        You're right. Now, if you'll excuse me, I'll go hack dinner.
    - threeseed 12y ago
      I'm a developer of 20+ years and have no idea how to patch most open source software and have it "just work". Software has progressed to the point where the complexity and interconnectedness is far beyond what any one developer can do. Everyone just knows a few subsections.
      - stefantalpalaru 12y ago
        I just created the third, forth and fifth patches here to make vmware-modules compile and work on the 3.19.0 Linux kernel: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=539972 https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=539972 I write Python for a living.
      - Gurkenmaster 12y ago
        Some projects also have terrible project layouts. I have to poke around for several minutes just to find the source folder.
    - dang 12y ago
      > Unless you're a software developer, [...] don't waste your time on Hacker News. That is both wrong and mean. Non-programmers are 100% welcome on Hacker News. The only criterion is willingness to follow the site guidelines. The mandate of HN is "stories for the intellectually curious", not "exclusive programmer tribe".
      - stefantalpalaru 12y ago
        You know what's wrong and mean? Getting "You're submitting too fast. Please slow down. Thanks." the moment you fall under the radar of the same moderator who encourages users to downvote dissenting opinions. I kid, I kid. Down with the toxic, up with the awesome (with the definitions up to the people in power)!
- i2 12y ago
  It was quite common for the Linux kernel to panic, 15 years or so ago. I bet that even now it is much easier to make Linux panic than Darwin. HN became way too passive-aggressive in recent years... :(
  - stefantalpalaru 12y ago
    I run a Linux kernel 'tainted' with binary modules on my desktop and I don't remember the last time I saw a kernel panic. Maybe a couple of years ago when I ran the nVidia proprietary drivers along the generic framebuffer even though the documentation advised against it.

A very nice reminder that there's no such thing as code without bugs.

by i2 12y ago

A very nice reminder that there's no such thing as code without bugs.

stefantalpalaru 12y ago

I see it as a reminder not to run software than you cannot patch yourself.

k-mcgrady 12y ago
So unless you're a software developer don't use software?
- stefantalpalaru 12y ago
  Unless you're a software developer, don't call yourself a "hacker" and don't waste your time on Hacker News.
  - grubles 12y ago
    "Hacking" isn't exclusive to computers and software. Also, at the time of writing this, the #1 article on Hacker News is "Most types of cancer not due to “bad luck” [pdf]" which has little to do with computers or software.
    - stefantalpalaru 12y ago
      You're right. Now, if you'll excuse me, I'll go hack dinner.
  - threeseed 12y ago
    I'm a developer of 20+ years and have no idea how to patch most open source software and have it "just work". Software has progressed to the point where the complexity and interconnectedness is far beyond what any one developer can do. Everyone just knows a few subsections.
    - stefantalpalaru 12y ago
      I just created the third, forth and fifth patches here to make vmware-modules compile and work on the 3.19.0 Linux kernel: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=539972 https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=539972 I write Python for a living.
    - Gurkenmaster 12y ago
      Some projects also have terrible project layouts. I have to poke around for several minutes just to find the source folder.
  - dang 12y ago
    > Unless you're a software developer, [...] don't waste your time on Hacker News. That is both wrong and mean. Non-programmers are 100% welcome on Hacker News. The only criterion is willingness to follow the site guidelines. The mandate of HN is "stories for the intellectually curious", not "exclusive programmer tribe".
    - stefantalpalaru 12y ago
      You know what's wrong and mean? Getting "You're submitting too fast. Please slow down. Thanks." the moment you fall under the radar of the same moderator who encourages users to downvote dissenting opinions. I kid, I kid. Down with the toxic, up with the awesome (with the definitions up to the people in power)!
i2 12y ago
It was quite common for the Linux kernel to panic, 15 years or so ago. I bet that even now it is much easier to make Linux panic than Darwin. HN became way too passive-aggressive in recent years... :(
- stefantalpalaru 12y ago
  I run a Linux kernel 'tainted' with binary modules on my desktop and I don't remember the last time I saw a kernel panic. Maybe a couple of years ago when I ran the nVidia proprietary drivers along the generic framebuffer even though the documentation advised against it.