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It's not just that the images will be better, it's that the sensors can get smaller. The silly bump that represents the camera on the iPhone6/Plus wouldn't be t

It's not just that the images will be better, it's that the sensors can get smaller. The silly bump that represents the camera on the iPhone6/Plus wouldn't be there if this existed. Google Glass could be far cheaper. Smaller SLRs, even! And everything will have far better quality than before. Truly revolutionary.

KeytarHero 12y ago
Do you mean lenses can get smaller, or is there some way this means the sensors can be smaller too?
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olla 12y ago
Id rather say that this means the sensors can get bigger for compact cameras and phones. Currently the only thing that limits us making pocketable full frame cameras with zoomable optics is the size of optics, not the size of sensor or other electrical components. Flat optics might make full frame camera phones even possible.
- rndn 12y ago
  I doubt this is a big advantage because you would capture everything that is close to the sensor (dust, fingers, scratches etc.). A lens effectively applies an extreme low-pass filter to these things because they are massively out of focus.
  - olla 12y ago
    From my own experience I can say it would be an enormous advantage when shooting in low light. At least for current sensors. Where I am living, for four months in winter have only limited hours of dim daylight and current phone sensors are pretty much useless. You are right about dust though and extra care has to be taken, but it seems as a small inconvenience to me compared to sub-acceptable noise levels.
Houshalter 12y ago
We may also have super tiny lens free cameras that avoid these issues entirely: www.technologyreview.com/news/525731/lens-free-camera-sees-things-differently/
lutorm 12y ago
Part of the bump must be there because you need a finite focal length system, and that won't change even if the lens itself is flat.
higherpurpose 12y ago
Actually, the bump on the iPhone 6 shouldn't be there now. There are phones that are just as slim and with just as big if not bigger sensors, and are perfectly flat. The problem is Apple decided not to change the sensor this year, and used an pretty old one, which hasn't gotten anymore compact, even though the phone's body has. Watch Apple introduce a 13 or 16MP camera this year that has no bump. Why? Because this time it will actually use a cutting edge sensor, rather than a 3 year old one.

KeytarHero 12y ago

Do you mean lenses can get smaller, or is there some way this means the sensors can be smaller too?

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olla 12y ago

Id rather say that this means the sensors can get bigger for compact cameras and phones. Currently the only thing that limits us making pocketable full frame cameras with zoomable optics is the size of optics, not the size of sensor or other electrical components. Flat optics might make full frame camera phones even possible.

rndn 12y ago
I doubt this is a big advantage because you would capture everything that is close to the sensor (dust, fingers, scratches etc.). A lens effectively applies an extreme low-pass filter to these things because they are massively out of focus.
- olla 12y ago
  From my own experience I can say it would be an enormous advantage when shooting in low light. At least for current sensors. Where I am living, for four months in winter have only limited hours of dim daylight and current phone sensors are pretty much useless. You are right about dust though and extra care has to be taken, but it seems as a small inconvenience to me compared to sub-acceptable noise levels.

Houshalter 12y ago

We may also have super tiny lens free cameras that avoid these issues entirely: www.technologyreview.com/news/525731/lens-free-camera-sees-things-differently/

lutorm 12y ago

Part of the bump must be there because you need a finite focal length system, and that won't change even if the lens itself is flat.

higherpurpose 12y ago

Actually, the bump on the iPhone 6 shouldn't be there now. There are phones that are just as slim and with just as big if not bigger sensors, and are perfectly flat. The problem is Apple decided not to change the sensor this year, and used an pretty old one, which hasn't gotten anymore compact, even though the phone's body has. Watch Apple introduce a 13 or 16MP camera this year that has no bump. Why? Because this time it will actually use a cutting edge sensor, rather than a 3 year old one.