> Just none of them really hold up against Google's products. They all work, just nowhere near as well as they should. At the risk of sounding like the old dud

> Just none of them really hold up against Google's products. They all work, just nowhere near as well as they should. At the risk of sounding like the old dude in the room (only 34 lol) ... I'd almost swear that I've read a variation of this exact sentence 15 years ago on places like slashdot. Just replace Google with Microsoft ... all their products "just worked", just, nowhere near as they could ;)