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How stupid are the FBI? Do they really want to bring someone "in the fold" in a coercive manner like this? Someone who's entire ###existence### is about cracki

by jmadsen 12y ago

How stupid are the FBI? Do they really want to bring someone "in the fold" in a coercive manner like this? Someone who's entire ###existence### is about cracking systems and spreading information on what they find? They want to invite him into their own living room, knowing that he hates them and feels they screwed him? The arrogance of these people to think they could actually manage and control someone like him, and not get burned.

dhimes 12y ago
Rumor has it that they have some experience turning people. The scary part is that it may not be all that hard to manipulate people. Now excuse me I have to go buy a Lenovo from Best Buy...
- RemoteWorker 12y ago
  > Now excuse me I have to go buy a Lenovo from Best Buy... What am I missing?
  - CapitalistCartr 12y ago
    Elsewhere on the HN front page is an article about Lenovo putting adware on their computers, and Best Buy is notorious for their shady practices.
    - TeMPOraL 12y ago
      It's not just adware, it's a piece of crapware that defeats SSL on your machine, allowing anyone to pretend that they're e.g. your bank.
  - denisw 12y ago
    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9072424 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9072424
colechristensen 12y ago
This is fairly naive. Some of the best... ahem... clandestine intelligence work is done by bringing the absolute least trustworthy sort of person into the fold. Namely, the spies of other countries or accomplished persons in some underground or another.
hownottowrite 12y ago
'Sometimes,' she said, 'they threaten you with something something you can't stand up to, can't even think about. And then you say, "Don't do it to me, do it to somebody else, do it to so-and-so." And perhaps you might pretend, afterwards, that it was only a trick and that you just said it to make them stop and didn't really mean it. But that isn't true. At the time when it happens you do mean it. You think there's no other way of saving yourself, and you're quite ready to save yourself that way. You WANT it to happen to the other person. You don't give a damn what they suffer. All you care about is yourself.' - Julia, 1984
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spain 12y ago
Keep your friends close, keep your enemies closer.
driverdan 12y ago
Assuming it happened as he described, it's really tough to know if they were being honest. If they really wanted his help to investigate corruption and drug trafficking then I can see why they'd ask. The only people who support corrupt politicians are those who pay them. I know I'd help in a corruption investigation. That said, often LE uses false pretenses. It's quite possible they actually wanted him for his Anonymous connections. Had he worked for them they could have pigeonholed him into ratting.

by jmadsen 12y ago

dhimes 12y ago

Rumor has it that they have some experience turning people. The scary part is that it may not be all that hard to manipulate people. Now excuse me I have to go buy a Lenovo from Best Buy...

RemoteWorker 12y ago
> Now excuse me I have to go buy a Lenovo from Best Buy... What am I missing?
- CapitalistCartr 12y ago
  Elsewhere on the HN front page is an article about Lenovo putting adware on their computers, and Best Buy is notorious for their shady practices.
  - TeMPOraL 12y ago
    It's not just adware, it's a piece of crapware that defeats SSL on your machine, allowing anyone to pretend that they're e.g. your bank.
- denisw 12y ago
  https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9072424 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9072424

colechristensen 12y ago

This is fairly naive. Some of the best... ahem... clandestine intelligence work is done by bringing the absolute least trustworthy sort of person into the fold. Namely, the spies of other countries or accomplished persons in some underground or another.

hownottowrite 12y ago

'Sometimes,' she said, 'they threaten you with something something you can't stand up to, can't even think about. And then you say, "Don't do it to me, do it to somebody else, do it to so-and-so." And perhaps you might pretend, afterwards, that it was only a trick and that you just said it to make them stop and didn't really mean it. But that isn't true. At the time when it happens you do mean it. You think there's no other way of saving yourself, and you're quite ready to save yourself that way. You WANT it to happen to the other person. You don't give a damn what they suffer. All you care about is yourself.' - Julia, 1984

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spain 12y ago

Keep your friends close, keep your enemies closer.

driverdan 12y ago

Assuming it happened as he described, it's really tough to know if they were being honest. If they really wanted his help to investigate corruption and drug trafficking then I can see why they'd ask. The only people who support corrupt politicians are those who pay them. I know I'd help in a corruption investigation. That said, often LE uses false pretenses. It's quite possible they actually wanted him for his Anonymous connections. Had he worked for them they could have pigeonholed him into ratting.