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> Ive is a car snob of the highest order, applying the same kind of withering put-downs it’s easy to imagine his former boss would toss out. "There are some sho

> Ive is a car snob of the highest order, applying the same kind of withering put-downs it’s easy to imagine his former boss would toss out. "There are some shocking cars on the road," he says about the Toyota Echo, adding that, "One person’s car is another person’s scenery." He refers to the same car as "nothing … just insipid." Later he expresses his disgust at the fact that another senior Apple executive drives a Toyota Camry. Jony Ive was one of the few high level people at Apple I respected. Those comments just lost him most of that respect. There's being a snob, and there's being a dick. Seriously, "disgust"? At someone driving a Camry? From someone who "totaled" a DB9 a month after getting it? Maybe he should get a Camry...

marze 12y ago
Read the actual interview, those are misquotes at best.
- Intermernet 12y ago
  The actual quote from the New Yorker article is: >Jeff Williams, Apple’s senior vice-president of operations, drives an old Toyota Camry. Ive’s verdict, according to Williams, is “Oh, God.” This should, as you say, be taken as just the words "Oh, God". This may not be disgust, it may be amusement, resignment, anger etc. You're right. I shouldn't draw conclusions from misquotes. Some respect regained, but I still think he's playing the "design superiority" card incorrectly with comparisons to Camrys... Unless you count those 2009-2011 models.
  - marze 12y ago
    I drive a Camry daily, six cylinders. It's an awesome car.
k-mcgrady 12y ago
>> "At someone driving a Camry?" His disgust is not with the driver/owner but with the design.
- yitchelle 12y ago
  Even if his snobbery is with the car, the Camry design works at some level. Toyota sells tons of those. I had one about 10 years ago, and it was functional and does the job. For me, if I am going to spend 20K on an item, I would want it to be functional.
- Intermernet 12y ago
  The one non-subjective aspect of design (other than cost, obviously) is functionality, and the Camry is one of the more functional cars on the road. Every other aspect of design is subjective. One person's Porsche is another's Ferrari. One's BMW is another's Merc. Also, the article (although possibly misquoting), states that Ive's disgust is with the exec driving the Camry, not the Camry itself.
  - k-mcgrady 12y ago
    >> "Also, the article (although possibly misquoting), states that Ive's disgust is with the exec driving the Camry, not the Camry itself." Here is the text direct from the source article - the New Yorker profile - (that this article is referencing): "Jeff Williams, Apple’s senior vice-president of operations, drives an old Toyota Camry. Ive’s verdict, according to Williams, is “Oh, God.”"
matthewmacleod 12y ago
You appear to have lost respect for because a journalist used the term 'disgust' to describe their feelings, without it being a quote. It is a ridiculous thing to lose respect for someone because of a third party's interpretation of something they said in this manner.

marze 12y ago

Read the actual interview, those are misquotes at best.

Intermernet 12y ago
The actual quote from the New Yorker article is: >Jeff Williams, Apple’s senior vice-president of operations, drives an old Toyota Camry. Ive’s verdict, according to Williams, is “Oh, God.” This should, as you say, be taken as just the words "Oh, God". This may not be disgust, it may be amusement, resignment, anger etc. You're right. I shouldn't draw conclusions from misquotes. Some respect regained, but I still think he's playing the "design superiority" card incorrectly with comparisons to Camrys... Unless you count those 2009-2011 models.
- marze 12y ago
  I drive a Camry daily, six cylinders. It's an awesome car.

k-mcgrady 12y ago

>> "At someone driving a Camry?" His disgust is not with the driver/owner but with the design.

yitchelle 12y ago
Even if his snobbery is with the car, the Camry design works at some level. Toyota sells tons of those. I had one about 10 years ago, and it was functional and does the job. For me, if I am going to spend 20K on an item, I would want it to be functional.
Intermernet 12y ago
The one non-subjective aspect of design (other than cost, obviously) is functionality, and the Camry is one of the more functional cars on the road. Every other aspect of design is subjective. One person's Porsche is another's Ferrari. One's BMW is another's Merc. Also, the article (although possibly misquoting), states that Ive's disgust is with the exec driving the Camry, not the Camry itself.
- k-mcgrady 12y ago
  >> "Also, the article (although possibly misquoting), states that Ive's disgust is with the exec driving the Camry, not the Camry itself." Here is the text direct from the source article - the New Yorker profile - (that this article is referencing): "Jeff Williams, Apple’s senior vice-president of operations, drives an old Toyota Camry. Ive’s verdict, according to Williams, is “Oh, God.”"

matthewmacleod 12y ago

You appear to have lost respect for because a journalist used the term 'disgust' to describe their feelings, without it being a quote. It is a ridiculous thing to lose respect for someone because of a third party's interpretation of something they said in this manner.