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Lenovo was the last respected PC laptop brand. Is there anyone I can trust to sell me a well-made laptop anymore besides Apple?

mintplant 12y ago
You can still wipe the hard drive and replace it with a Linux install (or a fresh Windows install, if you must).
rozap 12y ago
Asus is about it.
- Maakuth 12y ago
  I thought so too, but my recent experience with a Zenbook has changed my view. WiFi drivers were so bad it took half a year after my purchase before the connection became stable (not dropping every 15 minutes requiring a reboot). Touchpad drivers were also a mess with awful kinetic scrolling. And just couple of weeks ago it stopped booting Windows altogehter (something related to ACPI I guess, Linux works if I don't use suspend). Conveniently one month after the expiration of the warranty.
  - wvenable 12y ago
    Despite the initial problems, I like my Zenbook. The WiFi drivers are made by Intel, but yes, they were terrible (blue screen). I had to downgrade back to the drivers that came with Windows for while but the latest versions seem to be fine. I'm using some stock touchpad drivers that don't seem to have any kinetic scrolling. But I'm the person who brought this to the attention of Hacker News: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8546702 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8546702 Basically after installing just about everything the laptop comes with, it seems to be running great. :)
  - rozap 12y ago
    Maybe Windows is terrible, I've heard lots of bad stuff about the wifi and touchpad drivers in particular. I installed xubuntu the day I got it and everything worked out of the box from day one. Power management on ubuntu 12.04 wasn't so great, but battery life became significantly better on 14.04. Additionally, a roommate spilled a pint of beer on my computer and Asus replaced it for free, despite not having an accidental damage warranty.
- krisgenre 12y ago
  I own two Asus products - Nexus 7 2012 and a K55VM series laptop. Both had problems with charging and used to get hot pretty soon.
larzang 12y ago
Clevo makes high quality laptops that are also very reasonably priced when bought barebones from the right vendor (they don't do direct consumer sales). Sager, System76, FalconNW, and a whole bunch of other boutique laptop companies are actually selling rebadged/modified Clevos.
- nkcpiytdhauwuhc 12y ago
  I have one of these. It feels very cheap and plastic. Definitely lacks the polish of a MacBook.

mintplant 12y ago

You can still wipe the hard drive and replace it with a Linux install (or a fresh Windows install, if you must).

rozap 12y ago

Asus is about it.

Maakuth 12y ago
I thought so too, but my recent experience with a Zenbook has changed my view. WiFi drivers were so bad it took half a year after my purchase before the connection became stable (not dropping every 15 minutes requiring a reboot). Touchpad drivers were also a mess with awful kinetic scrolling. And just couple of weeks ago it stopped booting Windows altogehter (something related to ACPI I guess, Linux works if I don't use suspend). Conveniently one month after the expiration of the warranty.
- wvenable 12y ago
  Despite the initial problems, I like my Zenbook. The WiFi drivers are made by Intel, but yes, they were terrible (blue screen). I had to downgrade back to the drivers that came with Windows for while but the latest versions seem to be fine. I'm using some stock touchpad drivers that don't seem to have any kinetic scrolling. But I'm the person who brought this to the attention of Hacker News: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8546702 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8546702 Basically after installing just about everything the laptop comes with, it seems to be running great. :)
- rozap 12y ago
  Maybe Windows is terrible, I've heard lots of bad stuff about the wifi and touchpad drivers in particular. I installed xubuntu the day I got it and everything worked out of the box from day one. Power management on ubuntu 12.04 wasn't so great, but battery life became significantly better on 14.04. Additionally, a roommate spilled a pint of beer on my computer and Asus replaced it for free, despite not having an accidental damage warranty.
krisgenre 12y ago
I own two Asus products - Nexus 7 2012 and a K55VM series laptop. Both had problems with charging and used to get hot pretty soon.

larzang 12y ago

Clevo makes high quality laptops that are also very reasonably priced when bought barebones from the right vendor (they don't do direct consumer sales). Sager, System76, FalconNW, and a whole bunch of other boutique laptop companies are actually selling rebadged/modified Clevos.

nkcpiytdhauwuhc 12y ago
I have one of these. It feels very cheap and plastic. Definitely lacks the polish of a MacBook.