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>> This complaint is a narrow one While this is true, the implications could be far reaching for companies here in the US Since Apple has instituted their "wa
by at-fates-hands 12y ago
>> This complaint is a narrow one
While this is true, the implications could be far reaching for companies here in the US
Since Apple has instituted their "walled Garden" approach to all their software and now Microsoft is doing the same with their software, it would open the door for more litigation against both companies as "monopolistic" if Yandex were to prove its case against Android.
The interesting question then becomes, if "monopoly" means not having choices once you've selected a company's OS (meaning you have to use their apps, their browser, their API's), or is it irrelevant since you do have a "choice" to go with whatever OS you want to use to begin with?
- task_queue 12y agoThankfully, United States v Microsoft Corporation solved this particular dilemma in 2001.
- lsaferite 12y agoPerhaps you could expand upon what you think they solved?
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- task_queue 12y agoIt is the case the grandparent is referencing with IE bundling in Windows. It reapplies the antitrust laws to monopolies selling bits. If Google is found to have a monopoly in market X and uses that control to gain control of market Y by forcing out competitors without really competing, that is the type of monopoly that's being targeted. This is what the grandparent is talking about. It is different from a simple monopoly the parent refers to. Having a monopoly isn't illegal. Abusing or attaining the status in certain ways are. Walled gardens can certainly be considered a form of monopoly, but that means nothing in the eyes of the law unless they use abuse their monopoly status.
- lsaferite 12y agoAnyone is welcome to use AOSP. Amazon has it's own, non-play, based apps. Even on a non-blessed system you can get and install the core Google APKs and have access to the play store.
- ocdtrekkie 12y agoI think the walled garden approach that Apple, Google, and Microsoft all ascribe to is definitely anti-competitive at it's core, and I truly hope more governments will start addressing it as such.
- Oletros 12y agoWhat walled garden does have Android? You can change almost any default program, use alternative stores or sideload applications
- ocdtrekkie 12y agoGoogle Play/Apps. They're pushing more and more apps to be dependent on "Play Services", which is a monolithic Google cloud data platform. It ensures a large percentage of appealing apps are dependent on Google's platform, rather than the open source Android OS. Furthermore, the use of the MARA contract forbids OEMs from introducing any viable competitors into the market.
- Oletros 12y agoI repeat, what walled garden when it is not forbidden change or install anything on an Android device. And still waiting any single proof of that MADA restrictions. perhaps you don't find them because you even can't spell it right.
- ocdtrekkie 12y agoMADA restrictions mandate Google Search be the default search provider, and that the long press on the center button goes to Google Search. And that over 20 apps must be preinstalled with a Google folder on the home screen with many of them in it. Ensuring every device must be sold with very prominent advertising of Google services. This creates a very chilling effect on the ability for competitors to land on the platform, as at best, they'll be an unwanted second service on the device.