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This should probably be viewed as an extension of the Ukrainian conflict. Everything else is garnish.

by blfr 12y ago

vbezhenar 12y ago
I don't think so. Yandex is very neutral company in that regard. They have Ukrainian office with developers. For Ukrainian users they show Crimea belonging to the Ukraine when browsing from maps.yandex.ua. You can check it yourself, compare maps.yandex.ua and maps.yandex.ru.
- blfr 12y ago
  Yandex may be neutral but Russian regulators probably aren't so it's a good moment to have a complaint about an American company.
- dreamweapon 12y ago
  If they had balls, they'd show it as belonging to Ukraine -- or at least as disputed -- on both maps.
  - vetinari 12y ago
    Google does exactly the same thing. Currently I'm in a country that didn't recognize Kosovo independence and Google shows it as disputed territory, otherwise part of Serbia. Exactly the same way for Crimea and Ukraine. It is neither of these companies job to take sides. The simplest way is to show to each party what they want to see.
    - dreamweapon 12y ago
      Google apparently shows Kosovo as a disputed region in the U.S., as well (demarcated by a dashed, rather than by a solid line). Ditto for the Crimea.
  - mikeash 12y ago
    Maybe if they had balls they'd show it as belonging to Russia on both maps. Why assume they'd be on your side?
    - dreamweapon 12y ago
      Silently legitimizing the gains made in a war of naked territorial aggression (in order to maintain market share, most likely) doesn't require a lot of balls, in my book.
- drzaiusapelord 12y ago
  No big company in Russia is "neutral." They don't have those business freedoms. Kaspersky is a good example of how deeply tied Russian companies are to its security and political apparatus: http://www.wired.com/2012/07/ff_kaspersky/all/ http://www.wired.com/2012/07/ff_kaspersky/all/ >maps.yandex.ua Most/all map vendors follow local politics in regards to territory disputes. I'm not sure why you think that's unusually generous of them. If anything, the Russians know that keeping UA under their thumb and using their services instead of western services is to their advantage. A more apolitical move would be having it listed as disputed on both maps.
kushti 12y ago
May be it's just you eaten too much propaganda in so-called "news"?

This should probably be viewed as an extension of the Ukrainian conflict. Everything else is garnish.

by blfr 12y ago

This should probably be viewed as an extension of the Ukrainian conflict. Everything else is garnish.

I don't think so. Yandex is very neutral company in that regard. They have Ukrainian office with developers. For Ukrainian users they show Crimea belonging to the Ukraine when browsing from maps.yandex.ua. You can check it yourself, compare maps.yandex.ua and maps.yandex.ru.

blfr 12y ago
Yandex may be neutral but Russian regulators probably aren't so it's a good moment to have a complaint about an American company.
dreamweapon 12y ago
If they had balls, they'd show it as belonging to Ukraine -- or at least as disputed -- on both maps.
- vetinari 12y ago
  Google does exactly the same thing. Currently I'm in a country that didn't recognize Kosovo independence and Google shows it as disputed territory, otherwise part of Serbia. Exactly the same way for Crimea and Ukraine. It is neither of these companies job to take sides. The simplest way is to show to each party what they want to see.
  - dreamweapon 12y ago
    Google apparently shows Kosovo as a disputed region in the U.S., as well (demarcated by a dashed, rather than by a solid line). Ditto for the Crimea.
- mikeash 12y ago
  Maybe if they had balls they'd show it as belonging to Russia on both maps. Why assume they'd be on your side?
  - dreamweapon 12y ago
    Silently legitimizing the gains made in a war of naked territorial aggression (in order to maintain market share, most likely) doesn't require a lot of balls, in my book.
drzaiusapelord 12y ago
No big company in Russia is "neutral." They don't have those business freedoms. Kaspersky is a good example of how deeply tied Russian companies are to its security and political apparatus: http://www.wired.com/2012/07/ff_kaspersky/all/ http://www.wired.com/2012/07/ff_kaspersky/all/ >maps.yandex.ua Most/all map vendors follow local politics in regards to territory disputes. I'm not sure why you think that's unusually generous of them. If anything, the Russians know that keeping UA under their thumb and using their services instead of western services is to their advantage. A more apolitical move would be having it listed as disputed on both maps.

kushti 12y ago

May be it's just you eaten too much propaganda in so-called "news"?