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Looks like a one game made 22 times :)

by zerr 12y ago

sebgeelen 12y ago
A genre is not a game.
- Kiro 12y ago
  You have to admit they look really similar though. Just google some of the games mentioned: Nethergate, Geneforge and Avernum.
  - kzrdude 12y ago
    They're all good games. And computer game sequels are nothing like movie sequels. Games get the chance to do the same thing better, more conveniently, with better graphics.
  - VLM 12y ago
    All the articles on HN look the same, identical ASCII character set, English prose... I like his games and have spent some money on them over the last 20 years, never regretted it. They are not focused to appeal superficially visually. Someone who solely ranks games by polygon count would be horribly disappointed. Thats just not his market.
    - Kiro 12y ago
      > All the articles on HN look the same, identical ASCII character set, English prose... Not a very good comparison since most games do not look like this, while most written texts do. I'm not saying the games are bad anyway. I'm actually hyped to try them out.
      - shultays 12y ago
        But by same logic, aren't all text only games same?
        Kiro 12y ago
        You have a point but I was actually just referring to the visual aspect where I would say the same thing about text games.
gilgoomesh 12y ago
You're joking but there's no shame in having a lot of similarity between games when that's what your audience wants. Vogel's games are based on a few different iterations of his in-house RPG game engines and he has remade/updated his most popular Exile/Avernum series in each generation of the game engine so some of them are very nearly the same game. And they're fantastic. Dated looking and punishing but expansive and detailed and intricate.
reidrac 12y ago
He has defended in the past his strategy of iterating over the same idea and keep his fan base happy with a solid product. I remember reading a post by Jeff were he mentions that instead of redoing all graphics and art in each new chapter of his series, he prefers adding content in other areas like gameplay and story, and his customers love that.
pjc50 12y ago
A popular strategy, as used by big franchises like Madden or Call of Duty.
Raphmedia 12y ago
You could say the same thing about a lot of big name games. To me, all WW2 shooters are the same game. All grimdark shooters with sticky cover systems are the same game.

Looks like a one game made 22 times :)

by zerr 12y ago

Looks like a one game made 22 times :)

sebgeelen 12y ago

A genre is not a game.

Kiro 12y ago
You have to admit they look really similar though. Just google some of the games mentioned: Nethergate, Geneforge and Avernum.
- kzrdude 12y ago
  They're all good games. And computer game sequels are nothing like movie sequels. Games get the chance to do the same thing better, more conveniently, with better graphics.
- VLM 12y ago
  All the articles on HN look the same, identical ASCII character set, English prose... I like his games and have spent some money on them over the last 20 years, never regretted it. They are not focused to appeal superficially visually. Someone who solely ranks games by polygon count would be horribly disappointed. Thats just not his market.
  - Kiro 12y ago
    > All the articles on HN look the same, identical ASCII character set, English prose... Not a very good comparison since most games do not look like this, while most written texts do. I'm not saying the games are bad anyway. I'm actually hyped to try them out.
    - shultays 12y ago
      But by same logic, aren't all text only games same?
      - Kiro 12y ago
        You have a point but I was actually just referring to the visual aspect where I would say the same thing about text games.

gilgoomesh 12y ago

You're joking but there's no shame in having a lot of similarity between games when that's what your audience wants. Vogel's games are based on a few different iterations of his in-house RPG game engines and he has remade/updated his most popular Exile/Avernum series in each generation of the game engine so some of them are very nearly the same game. And they're fantastic. Dated looking and punishing but expansive and detailed and intricate.

reidrac 12y ago

He has defended in the past his strategy of iterating over the same idea and keep his fan base happy with a solid product. I remember reading a post by Jeff were he mentions that instead of redoing all graphics and art in each new chapter of his series, he prefers adding content in other areas like gameplay and story, and his customers love that.

pjc50 12y ago

A popular strategy, as used by big franchises like Madden or Call of Duty.

Raphmedia 12y ago

You could say the same thing about a lot of big name games. To me, all WW2 shooters are the same game. All grimdark shooters with sticky cover systems are the same game.