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That's called "spintax" and the overall approach is known as article spinning[1]. There's a small industry of software tools that facilitate that sort of thing
by yohoho22 12y ago
That's called "spintax" and the overall approach is known as article spinning[1]. There's a small industry of software tools that facilitate that sort of thing (e.g. The Best Spinner[2]). Seems to be dying out as that kind of posting is more likely to get you penalized quickly nowadays rather than produce any real results.
[1]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_spinning http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_spinning
[2]http://thebestspinner.com/ http://thebestspinner.com/
- feybay 12y agoAren't article spinning bots similar to stock trading bots in that somebody would only sell the bot if it wasn't working anymore?
- hayksaakian 12y agonot necessarily. a big strategy for gray/black hat tools is to sell the tools rather than using them to leverage risk. Imagine a 100$ tool that might return 0 to 200$, the tool author sells the dream, and collects a more reliable income.
- thejosh 12y agoYep, this is how forums work. Tools are very rare compared to other sold services because making tools are hard, and making a tool that people want to buy even harder. You may see software like TheBestSpinner, XRumer and another one I can't remember the name of, basically a Wordpress comment spammer cannon that sell thousands of copies, more than that person would make using these tools themselves.
- funkyy 12y agoThere is also Scrapebox for blogs and Senuke for other. They have been around since few years...
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- syntheticnature 12y agoI'm surprised no one with an eye towards reducing the number/variety of such tools has inflicted an intentional App Store-style price race to the bottom by creating such a tool, preferably a superior one, and selling it well under cost (e.g. $1.00) to make it unprofitable to develop them. Might take multiple "competing" tools to cause this to occur, of course, and at some point they'd want to stop supplying their tools. Of course, your $100 price might be a figure pulled out of thin air, not an accurate one.
- Retric 12y agoSuperior tools are only superior if they beat spam filters. So, either your cheap tool works and spam gets worse or it fails and people just use more expensive options. PS: Spam is a billion dollar industry and plenty of people with fairly deep pockets.
- nerfhammer 12y agoPeople creating this stuff need something to sell so might as well sell something they know something about already. Sort of how marketing experts will market their own marketing teleseminars, etc.
- blumkvist 12y agoThose are not marketing experts. You don't see Trevor Edwards or Beth Comstock running seminars, do you?
- arikrak 12y agoCriminals often sell stolen credit card numbers to other people willing to risk buying things with them.
- ryanlol 12y agoIt's not even about the risk, it's really difficult to monetize massive amounts of cards.
- downandout 12y agoIt isn't that simple. There are other issues that the developers may not want to deal with in using their own tech. Access to proxies is a big one. Obtaining lists of sites with enough traffic/page rank for this to matter is another. That said, these blackhat forums tend to be full of people with little money. Many users are from places like India and Pakistan, trying whatever they can to eke out an existence. Since almost none of the users on those forums have money to buy the tools (even $100 is a very high price point for products on these forums), writing tools for them is a fool's errand.
- blumkvist 12y agoYou can net 7 figures selling on some of the forums, easily.
- shostack 12y agoThe ones who got rich during the gold rush were the people selling shovels and wheelbarrows.
- sthreet 12y agoIs this at all related to the way this random name generator does 'advanced interface'? http://www.rinkworks.com/namegen/instr.shtml http://www.rinkworks.com/namegen/instr.shtml I don't know how either one works well, but I saw some similarities, and with my limited knowledge of how that name generator format works I would know either more or less about how article spinning works.
- listic 12y agoWhat's the definitive spintax code? Is it this one? https://www.npmjs.com/package/spintax https://www.npmjs.com/package/spintax
- davidcelis 12y agoProbably not; people have been doing this for longer than Node has existed