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some good details in your assessment but entirely missing a lot of great positives especially on the products you've hit out. Azure is growing, Surface is growi

some good details in your assessment but entirely missing a lot of great positives especially on the products you've hit out. Azure is growing, Surface is growing and is not only a solid product but one of those products that is what a lot of people have been dreaming about that other companies just aren't ballsy enough to do. Each iteration in a short time has improved quite a bit either in performance or device spec. That's a lot of fast good work. Xbox one is quite amazing. Sales are good, games are ramping up. Every week some new games are out or announced. I can't wait to see what they do to improve that. Buying of Minecraft was a fantastic decision, it's not like they didn't have any video game division and suddenly bought it. I'm hoping to see more work on it but you saw how they were using it as a platform in their VR announcements, which means that they plan to expand it further and it ideally will continue to be a platform that devs will create new ideas in and from. From just using it and having been kind of annoyed by MS Office since the 2003 days, 365 seems snappier and better than it ever has been. Certain things after getting used to seeing them end up making sense and are attractive. OneDrive is a very nice service, I like it way better than Google, for free and paid you get a lot of storage with it and it's super easy to use and looks classy, not cheap. windows 10 could be insanely good. don't forget the free upgrade offerings too, which is new and much welcomed.

drzaiusapelord 12y ago
A lot of the things you listed are losing money for MS. Yes, they're neat and from an end user perspective, nice toys, but the reality is that cashflow only come from a handful of sources and MS really is screwing up. I think maybe it just needs to find its footing, but at the end of the day, someone needs to pay the bills. Meanwhile Apple and Google are making money hand over fist in those spaces.
- dogma1138 12y ago
  Amazon has never made a profit, they are a case study example of a company that never has gotten out of the red, losing money on every product and still growing to become a monster. Xbox BTW is a good earner for Microsoft, they lose money on the console and make a killing on each game. Lumia and Surface also showed very good profits from Q3 2014 and onwards. And Windows Azure is probably the only truly profitable cloud platform out there with 25-30 bln dollars in yearly profits (not income). Amazon is losing billions on their cloud, and on every other product they run including their store, the only time they got out of the red was 2009 after 15 years in business and that was never repeated again. In 2014 both MSFT and Amazon had virtually the same income Amazon even made 2-3 bln. $ more. MSFT has a net profit of 28 bln, Amazon lost 250 mil. There is more to business than just revenue streams, but as revenue goes MSFT is in a very good shape.

drzaiusapelord 12y ago

A lot of the things you listed are losing money for MS. Yes, they're neat and from an end user perspective, nice toys, but the reality is that cashflow only come from a handful of sources and MS really is screwing up. I think maybe it just needs to find its footing, but at the end of the day, someone needs to pay the bills. Meanwhile Apple and Google are making money hand over fist in those spaces.

dogma1138 12y ago
Amazon has never made a profit, they are a case study example of a company that never has gotten out of the red, losing money on every product and still growing to become a monster. Xbox BTW is a good earner for Microsoft, they lose money on the console and make a killing on each game. Lumia and Surface also showed very good profits from Q3 2014 and onwards. And Windows Azure is probably the only truly profitable cloud platform out there with 25-30 bln dollars in yearly profits (not income). Amazon is losing billions on their cloud, and on every other product they run including their store, the only time they got out of the red was 2009 after 15 years in business and that was never repeated again. In 2014 both MSFT and Amazon had virtually the same income Amazon even made 2-3 bln. $ more. MSFT has a net profit of 28 bln, Amazon lost 250 mil. There is more to business than just revenue streams, but as revenue goes MSFT is in a very good shape.