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> The free version of Win 10 requires mandatory updates from Microsoft, not just security updates but app updates. Are you from the future when the final versi

• walterbell 12y ago
  There will be three "branches": Consumer, Current & LTS. Jan 2015, Terry Myerson of Microsoft, http://blogs.windows.com/business/2015/01/30/windows-10-for-enterprise-more-secure-and-up-to-date/ http://blogs.windows.com/business/2015/01/30/windows-10-for-... "With Windows 10, the experience will evolve and get even better over time. We’ll deliver new features when they’re ready, not waiting for the next major release. We think of Windows as a Service – in fact, one could reasonably think of Windows in the next couple of years as one of the largest Internet services on the planet. And just like any Internet service, the idea of asking “What version are you on?” will cease to make sense – which is great news for our Windows developers... Many consumers today expect their devices to receive ongoing feature updates without having to take an action. However, we understand that businesses require more control in how updates are delivered, and at what pace. For example, systems powering hospital emergency rooms, air traffic control towers, financial trading systems, factory floors, just to name a few, may need very strict change management policies, for prolonged periods of time. To support Windows 10 devices in these mission critical customer environments we will provide Long Term Servicing branches at the appropriate time intervals. ... we are introducing a new approach for business customers, which we are referring to as the Current branch for Business. By putting devices on the Current branch for Business, enterprises will be able to receive feature updates after their quality and application compatibility has been assessed in the consumer market, while continuing to receive security updates on a regular basis." Feb 2015, analysis of Jim Alcove (MS) blog post, http://blogs.windows.com/business/2015/01/30/windows-10-for-enterprise-more-secure-and-up-to-date/ http://blogs.windows.com/business/2015/01/30/windows-10-for-... & http://www.computerworld.com/article/2877983/microsoft-talks-up-windows-10-for-business-but-questions-mount.html http://www.computerworld.com/article/2877983/microsoft-talks... "Rather than rely on its decades-old practice of rolling out a new operating system every three years, Microsoft will stick with Windows 10 for much, much longer, updating the software on a frequent schedule with not only security fixes -- offered monthly since 2003 -- but also new features, new functionality and UI (user interface) and UX (user experience) changes and improvements. The revamp, which experts have called Microsoft's biggest-ever change to its update and upgrade process, is integral to the firm's "Windows as a service" strategy."
  • nvivo 12y ago
    As expected, there is nothing there to support your claims that "The free version of Win 10 requires mandatory updates from Microsoft, not just security updates but app updates." or that the it will have "a variety of user data tracking" included, your words. Posting a lot of unrelated text as answer doesn't make you more correct.
    • walterbell 12y ago
      > "The free version of Win 10 requires mandatory updates from Microsoft, not just security updates but app updates." This is explicitly addressed in the quoted text. Sorry if you didn't understand it. > "it will have "a variety of user data tracking" Addressed in my other comment (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9064579 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9064579), based on the Win10 preview. Are you familar with the concept of a "trial balloon"?
      • nvivo 12y ago
        > This is explicitly addressed in the quoted text. Sorry if you didn't understand it. Or maybe you're just not able to make yourself clear. You should work on that.
        • walterbell 12y ago
          > "Many consumers today expect their devices to receive ongoing feature updates without having to take an action." This is a statement by Microsoft, not by me. What do you think it means?
          • nvivo 12y ago
            Seems pretty clear to me. They will try to provide updates for the product faster and with less or no required user interaction, pretty much like any of their competitors are doing currently. But I'm 100% sure there is nothing in this sentence saying it will be mandatory, or that non-os applications are included in the updates, or that the user cannot opt out of updates. Sincerely, I'm not sure what's your point here.
• walterbell 12y ago
  > Because a "preview build" and a "final product that is not even released yet" are different things, you know... Did "preview builds" of previous Microsoft Windows versions have a comparable terms of service stipulation on user tracking and data collection? http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/10/07/windows_10_data_collection/ http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/10/07/windows_10_data_coll... Microsoft says they are moving to "Windows as a Service". Yes, we can wait until GA to find out what that means. Some IT professionals are paid to decide what that means, before GA, so their business can make strategic purchasing decisions. Microsoft is releasing information incrementally in response to customer feedback, so anyone who cares about this topic and is paying for Software Assurance is free to add their voice to the chorus of questioners.