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Wasn't there a similar debate over Quality vs Quantity with the Wikipedia community a few years back? It's been a while, but I remember seeing complaints about

by jobu 12y ago

Wasn't there a similar debate over Quality vs Quantity with the Wikipedia community a few years back? It's been a while, but I remember seeing complaints about thousands of articles getting culled for being trivial (comic books, movies, anime, moderately famous people or places). It's hard to find many articles about it anymore, but I did find this from 2007: http://grouplens.org/wikipedia-quality-over-quantity/ http://grouplens.org/wikipedia-quality-over-quantity/

mkremins 12y ago
You might get more results searching for "deletionism vs inclusionism", which seems to be the most widely used name for the debate: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deletionism_and_inclusionism_in_Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deletionism_and_inclusionism_in...
- angersock 12y ago
  What's the current general stance on that these days I wonder? What's the prevailing wind?
  - VLM 12y ago
    The deletionists won and quite a few people refuse to participate anymore. Which leads to declining quality of article and moderation...
    - chris_mahan 12y ago
      I was one of those who left. I let my adminship elapse after 10 years. I also don't contribute much to SO, or to any SE properties, despite being on the early public beta. (remember the signup as a google spreadhseet). I'm ID 479 on SO.
    - merrua 12y ago
      Yep. And the deletionists where more often the "majority" culture and male, which resulted in a feedback loop for the nonminority and female. New minority turn up, have a bad experience and leaves. I think it was studied let me see if I can find the paper. I know the results were replicated with comment bots. Update, not the ones I was thinking of but a good read. HBS Cases: How Wikipedia Works (or Doesn't) http://hbswk.hbs.edu/pdf/item/5605.pdf http://hbswk.hbs.edu/pdf/item/5605.pdf
  - indymike 12y ago
    That discussion has been deleted.
quanticle 12y ago
Well, it was more than a few years ago at this point, and the long and short of it is that the deletionists won. Gwern has a fairly thorough elegy for the (now dead) inclusionist beliefs: http://www.gwern.net/In%20Defense%20Of%20Inclusionism http://www.gwern.net/In%20Defense%20Of%20Inclusionism.
kevin_thibedeau 12y ago
The funny thing is that the fanboys fight back against this tactic by putting in hundreds of citations to "legitmize" articles about video games. Browse through some of them and you'll often see more citations than most of the math and science articles. Meanwhile, worthwhile articles that don't have rabid fans get deleted due to lack of "noteworthiness" (by someone's arbitrary standard of the day) or citations.
- reitanqild 12y ago
  If that is what it takes to get the deletionists away then feel free to add any valid reference I say. I have given up though.

by jobu 12y ago

mkremins 12y ago

You might get more results searching for "deletionism vs inclusionism", which seems to be the most widely used name for the debate: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deletionism_and_inclusionism_in_Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deletionism_and_inclusionism_in...

angersock 12y ago
What's the current general stance on that these days I wonder? What's the prevailing wind?
- VLM 12y ago
  The deletionists won and quite a few people refuse to participate anymore. Which leads to declining quality of article and moderation...
  - chris_mahan 12y ago
    I was one of those who left. I let my adminship elapse after 10 years. I also don't contribute much to SO, or to any SE properties, despite being on the early public beta. (remember the signup as a google spreadhseet). I'm ID 479 on SO.
  - merrua 12y ago
    Yep. And the deletionists where more often the "majority" culture and male, which resulted in a feedback loop for the nonminority and female. New minority turn up, have a bad experience and leaves. I think it was studied let me see if I can find the paper. I know the results were replicated with comment bots. Update, not the ones I was thinking of but a good read. HBS Cases: How Wikipedia Works (or Doesn't) http://hbswk.hbs.edu/pdf/item/5605.pdf http://hbswk.hbs.edu/pdf/item/5605.pdf
- indymike 12y ago
  That discussion has been deleted.

quanticle 12y ago

Well, it was more than a few years ago at this point, and the long and short of it is that the deletionists won. Gwern has a fairly thorough elegy for the (now dead) inclusionist beliefs: http://www.gwern.net/In%20Defense%20Of%20Inclusionism http://www.gwern.net/In%20Defense%20Of%20Inclusionism.

kevin_thibedeau 12y ago

The funny thing is that the fanboys fight back against this tactic by putting in hundreds of citations to "legitmize" articles about video games. Browse through some of them and you'll often see more citations than most of the math and science articles. Meanwhile, worthwhile articles that don't have rabid fans get deleted due to lack of "noteworthiness" (by someone's arbitrary standard of the day) or citations.

reitanqild 12y ago
If that is what it takes to get the deletionists away then feel free to add any valid reference I say. I have given up though.