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> I'd wager that most people who order those do share with someone else. I live in a college town and this is definitely not the case here. Most people buy th

> I'd wager that most people who order those do share with someone else. I live in a college town and this is definitely not the case here. Most people buy them for themselves. Items are also typically eaten for one meal, but it's college students so that's to be expected. > It's a mistaken assumption that one meal ought to be only 1/3 of your daily calorie intake I think what they're getting at is what you're also making a point about; that it doesn't necessarily have to be eaten in one setting. The point of lower calories is is gives you more options with what you can eat without gaining weight (assuming you're not on a weight-gain program for power lifting). What's deceiving is that, while Chipotle offers the full ranges of calories for their food, they don't mention that if you go through with all the things they offer then you usually end up in the 1000+ range. I wouldn't doubt if there are many people downing 1000+ calories thinking that they're closer to 600. > focusing on calorie and sodium counts is an incomplete way to assess the healthiness of the food This is correct, but to a point. An excess of calories, unless offset by regular exercise, leads to weight gain, which is collectively unhealthy for our society. There's obviously much more to it (an obese person who can run a mile is considered healthier than a skinny person who can't for example), but that's failing to see the bigger picture. The point is, people in developed countries are shoving more calories into themselves than they need, and places like Chipotle aren't a haven of good health - they're also part of the problem.

CPLX 12y ago
> an obese person who can run a mile is considered healthier than a skinny person who can't for example Do you have a link or data to support that idea? Genuinely curious, as that doesn't sound right to me.
- edgyswingset 12y ago
  Found one[0], but I'm sure you could also find more. This is stuff that's often taught in health programs at universities during a section on cardiorespiratory fitness. The general idea is that a fat person who can run well can support their body, whereas a skinny person who can't run well cannot support their body. [0]http://archinte.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=770362 http://archinte.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=77036...
- lostcolony 12y ago
  I don't want to look up a source offhand, especially since it would require some reading between the lines, but, 56% of NFL players are obese (97% are overweight), according to BMI guidelines. Going on the same "that doesn't sound right" criteria, saying they're less healthy than a skinny, sedentary person just because they have more muscle (and possibly more fat, but after all, BMI doesn't distinguish) doesn't sound right to me.
  - CPLX 12y ago
    > 56% of NFL players are obese... Going on the same "that doesn't sound right" criteria, saying they're less healthy than a skinny, sedentary person just because they have more muscle (and possibly more fat, but after all, BMI doesn't distinguish) doesn't sound right to me. It doesn't sound right to you because it isn't correct. NFL players, as a general rule, are not obese. Obesity is an excess of fat, by both the colloquial and medical definitions. BMI is an indication of obesity, which is not the same as a definition of same. http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/obesity http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/obesity : a condition characterized by the excessive accumulation and storage of fat in the body Medical Definition of OBESITY : a condition that is characterized by excessive accumulation and storage of fat in the body and that in an adult is typically indicated by a body mass index of 30 or greater
    - lostcolony 12y ago
      http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=160844 http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=16... "STANDARD DEFINITIONS OF OBESITY, which are based on height and weight, may not apply to former National Football League players and other groups with greater muscle mass, according to a new study" Emphasis mine. From your own quotation, "typically indicated by a body mass index of 30 or greater" Body mass index. BMI. BMI being height and weight. A la http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/health/educational/lose_wt/BMI/bmicalc.htm http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/health/educational/lose_wt/BMI/bmic... Ergo, a standard definition of obesity is calculated by height and weight, deemed 'BMI', which does not take muscle mass into account. Which is what my post states. BMI would state they're obese, and that says little about their actual health.
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- dragonwriter 12y ago
  Well, "health" isn't unidimensional, but one of the key areas (and one, but not the only, key risk area from obesity) is cardiovascular/respiratory health. Being able to run a mile (or not) is a much more direct indicator of that than obesity/non-obesity is, so at leas in that area of health, it makes sense to see an obese person who can run a mile as "healthier" than a ideal-body-fat person who cannot.
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CPLX 12y ago

> an obese person who can run a mile is considered healthier than a skinny person who can't for example Do you have a link or data to support that idea? Genuinely curious, as that doesn't sound right to me.

edgyswingset 12y ago
Found one[0], but I'm sure you could also find more. This is stuff that's often taught in health programs at universities during a section on cardiorespiratory fitness. The general idea is that a fat person who can run well can support their body, whereas a skinny person who can't run well cannot support their body. [0]http://archinte.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=770362 http://archinte.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=77036...
lostcolony 12y ago
I don't want to look up a source offhand, especially since it would require some reading between the lines, but, 56% of NFL players are obese (97% are overweight), according to BMI guidelines. Going on the same "that doesn't sound right" criteria, saying they're less healthy than a skinny, sedentary person just because they have more muscle (and possibly more fat, but after all, BMI doesn't distinguish) doesn't sound right to me.
- CPLX 12y ago
  > 56% of NFL players are obese... Going on the same "that doesn't sound right" criteria, saying they're less healthy than a skinny, sedentary person just because they have more muscle (and possibly more fat, but after all, BMI doesn't distinguish) doesn't sound right to me. It doesn't sound right to you because it isn't correct. NFL players, as a general rule, are not obese. Obesity is an excess of fat, by both the colloquial and medical definitions. BMI is an indication of obesity, which is not the same as a definition of same. http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/obesity http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/obesity : a condition characterized by the excessive accumulation and storage of fat in the body Medical Definition of OBESITY : a condition that is characterized by excessive accumulation and storage of fat in the body and that in an adult is typically indicated by a body mass index of 30 or greater
  - lostcolony 12y ago
    http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=160844 http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=16... "STANDARD DEFINITIONS OF OBESITY, which are based on height and weight, may not apply to former National Football League players and other groups with greater muscle mass, according to a new study" Emphasis mine. From your own quotation, "typically indicated by a body mass index of 30 or greater" Body mass index. BMI. BMI being height and weight. A la http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/health/educational/lose_wt/BMI/bmicalc.htm http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/health/educational/lose_wt/BMI/bmic... Ergo, a standard definition of obesity is calculated by height and weight, deemed 'BMI', which does not take muscle mass into account. Which is what my post states. BMI would state they're obese, and that says little about their actual health.
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dragonwriter 12y ago
Well, "health" isn't unidimensional, but one of the key areas (and one, but not the only, key risk area from obesity) is cardiovascular/respiratory health. Being able to run a mile (or not) is a much more direct indicator of that than obesity/non-obesity is, so at leas in that area of health, it makes sense to see an obese person who can run a mile as "healthier" than a ideal-body-fat person who cannot.

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