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There is a lot of arrogance in this thread. Thanks to better exposure through HN,Github etc , Indians devs are levelling up fast and I predict that in 4-5 years

There is a lot of arrogance in this thread. Thanks to better exposure through HN,Github etc , Indians devs are levelling up fast and I predict that in 4-5 years the quality gap will become almost non existent.

jchrome 12y ago
It's not so much as arrogance as it is just being honest about the quality of outsourced work. If you were worried about offending people, you would come up with all sorts of excuses for not outsourcing work. But honesty is not always the nicest thing to hear. I've been working with our outsourced team in Bangladesh and their quality of work is much less rigorous than that of our in-house team. "Indians devs are levelling [sic] up fast and I predict that in 4-5 years the quality gap will become almost non existent." You may be correct but the Original Post is talking about now*. Also, you seem to agree that there is a "quality gap".
- thewarrior 12y ago
  I completely agree about there being a quality gap. The reason was that Indian IT was dominated by body shopping companies that bid for grunt work and then threw quickly trained engineers at the problem , some of whom never even studied CS. This is changing now as we have an ecosystem of smaller companies which hire better people and have better processes and incentives. It will take time for the effects to be felt but I am confident that we will improve thanks to the better exposure we have , and learning from HN and Github. This isn't restricted to India though. Western developers should brace for a lot of competition in the years ahead. Eastern European developers are already almost as good.
scarmig 12y ago
Indian devs certainly level up fast, and I wouldn't be surprised if the number of great engineers born in India is already significantly larger than the number of great engineers born in the USA. But, and this is a big but: large numbers (the majority?) of those great engineers end up moving to the USA anyway. And, just as with evaporation, what's remaining is cooler than what left.

jchrome 12y ago

It's not so much as arrogance as it is just being honest about the quality of outsourced work. If you were worried about offending people, you would come up with all sorts of excuses for not outsourcing work. But honesty is not always the nicest thing to hear. I've been working with our outsourced team in Bangladesh and their quality of work is much less rigorous than that of our in-house team. "Indians devs are levelling [sic] up fast and I predict that in 4-5 years the quality gap will become almost non existent." You may be correct but the Original Post is talking about now*. Also, you seem to agree that there is a "quality gap".

thewarrior 12y ago
I completely agree about there being a quality gap. The reason was that Indian IT was dominated by body shopping companies that bid for grunt work and then threw quickly trained engineers at the problem , some of whom never even studied CS. This is changing now as we have an ecosystem of smaller companies which hire better people and have better processes and incentives. It will take time for the effects to be felt but I am confident that we will improve thanks to the better exposure we have , and learning from HN and Github. This isn't restricted to India though. Western developers should brace for a lot of competition in the years ahead. Eastern European developers are already almost as good.

scarmig 12y ago

Indian devs certainly level up fast, and I wouldn't be surprised if the number of great engineers born in India is already significantly larger than the number of great engineers born in the USA. But, and this is a big but: large numbers (the majority?) of those great engineers end up moving to the USA anyway. And, just as with evaporation, what's remaining is cooler than what left.