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What would americans and especially the us government do if germans would bug every car they sell in the US? (this is a serious question)
by doczoidberg 12y ago
What would americans and especially the us government do if germans would bug every car they sell in the US? (this is a serious question)
- trhway 12y agowhile not every car scale, Sony hack was blamed on NK. I remember no official action though. Seems that everybody hacking everybody is just an implicitly accepted practice these days.
- stefantalpalaru 12y agohttp://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jan/02/obama-imposes-sanctions-north-korea-sony-hack-the-interview http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jan/02/obama-imposes...
- aikah 12y ago> Sony hack was blamed on NK. With no proof showed to the public.And Obama put another set of sanctions on north korea as a result of this. This episode is no different from the WMDs in Irak during Bush era. At least Bush tried to make a case. Here no case,no smoking gun,just the Obama administration saying NK did it, but what is frightening is the total absence of reaction from the american people.NK is bad, but what the Obama administration did is bad too. Even though, again, NK government is horrible, what happened here is just frightening. Because tomorrow it can be country B or D that did nothing yet gets sanctions from US because the US administration said it did something?
- EthanHeilman 12y agoThere were serious repercussions to the Chinese hacking US companies, including a US Justice dept indictment, Google pulling out of China, and publicly embarrassing the Chinese Government. >Seems that everybody hacking everybody is just an implicitly accepted practice these days. My view is that: 1. this area is so new, no one knows what the limits should be (disagreements even within governments and agencies), 2. but that there are red lines, 3. that it is likely that the US and other actors have crossed a few of them, 4. and that the world is in the process of reacting and establishing norms of behavior.
- ig1 12y agoYou realize new BMWs have telematics data sent back to BMW ?
- rgbrenner 12y agoAlso Samsung Smart TVs.. or have we already forgot about that? it has been a whole week. I know it's not Germany.. just wanted to provide another example, so we know Germany isn't special.
- fr0ggerrr 12y agoA whole week, yes... It all started exactly 1 week ago...
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- hackuser 12y ago> You realize new BMWs have telematics data sent back to BMW ? Other auto makers do the same, afaik.
- vetinari 12y agoYou know, everyone who uses ConnectedDrive or TeleServices is pretty much aware of it, because it comes with monthly fee. It is a feature sold, not something undercover that the poor drivers are unaware of.
- Iv 12y agoFrightingly, probably nothing. NSA would probably try to intercept the data though.
- NamTaf 12y agoWithout a doubt this. Why would the NSA not say thank you to a foreign agency bugging their own citizens so that they can collect the data on the way out without having to do all of the meatspace effort?
- shubb 12y agoOr they might do something like this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Hastings_%28journalist%29#Allegations_of_foul_play.2C_and_assertions_to_the_contrary http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Hastings_%28journalist%...
- mitchty 12y agoTo be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't happen already.
- jfoutz 12y agoThere should be an information sharing agreement in place.