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I like your example quite a bit, but to make a side point: Do you really think it might be hard for guys to believe? I absolutely don't. There is a tiny loud

I like your example quite a bit, but to make a side point: Do you really think it might be hard for guys to believe? I absolutely don't. There is a tiny loud minority that might argue this disingenuously but even they don't actually believe it, they are just engaged in a political battle in an attempt to protect themselves from a perceived potential threat. Or they fully endorse identity politics and feel they need to do some PR for their "side". Everyone knows this happens, the issues are specific facts in individual cases and the prevalence overall. This rhetorical technique is consciously being used to avoid the actually issue as it's messy and difficult.

chrisbennet 12y ago
"I like your example quite a bit, but to make a side point: Do you really think it might be hard for guys to believe?" That is a good point. In my world view, even the jerks are "nice people trapped in an a-hole's body". I guess I was trying to speak to the "inner nice person" that resides in those guys who don't "get it" yet.
- freshhawk 12y ago
  That makes sense, I have a different world view and wouldn't think in terms of an "inner nice person" (or "inner evil person" for that matter). You've made me think I have ignored another class of people who automatically disbelieve this kind of thing: people who's world view is naively optimistic and have a lot of emotional pressure to believe the world is too fair for this behaviour to be going on regularly. Seems like you saw that reason for disbelief more easily than I did.