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What about property owner permission? I feel like that's something really important. Even if I'm not at my house I should still have a say if someone wants to f

What about property owner permission? I feel like that's something really important. Even if I'm not at my house I should still have a say if someone wants to fly some 50 lb contraption over it.

leetrout 12y ago
Well you don't own the airspace over your property. Based on existing regulations that's class G and is open and uncontrolled (generally from the ground to 1200' AGL)[0] And if any of the regs in part 91 end up applying- FAR 91.13 (a) just says aircraft have to be operated safely. "No person may operate an aircraft in a careless or reckless manner so as to endanger the life or property of another." So unless they were buzzing your house that might be hard to prove. The regs are loose around dropping items, too- FAR 91.15 [1]. They don't talk about needing property owner permission or anything. Maybe you could twist that in your defense since it is so loose- if something did fall from a UAV. [0] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airspace_class_%28United_States%29#Class_G http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airspace_class_%28United_States... [1] http://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgFAR.nsf/0/ad2ebda6370bb404852566cf0061287a!OpenDocument http://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgFAR.nsf...
- cmurf 12y ago
  FAR 91.119 [1] Proscribes what you describe. Flight below 1000' from the highest obstacle within 2000' horizontal is disallowed in congested areas (cities, towns, etc), and disallowed below 500' AGL in other than congested areas. Clearly small UASs are going to be exempt from those parts akin to the exemption for helicopters in subsection d. But there is no exemption for any aircraft from subsection a, so I'm curious how commercial or hobbyists comply with that. [1] http://www.flightsimaviation.com/data/FARS/part_91-119.html http://www.flightsimaviation.com/data/FARS/part_91-119.html
cmurf 12y ago
I think FAR 91.119(a) which I mention below applies here. The thing is, aircraft have registration requirements with the FAA so tracking down the owner/operator is straightforward. There needs to be something similar for UASs, and owner/operators will want to be really clear establishing who the operator was at a particular moment, and who has liability. That's something companies and their insurance companies will sort out over a relatively short amount of time. I'm more concerned about hobbyists than businesses at this point. Businesses have more to lose, not just lawsuits, but seriously bad imagery if someone's hurt by one of these things. (55lb doing 100mph from 500'? OK then! Look out below!)

What about property owner permission? I feel like that's something really important. Even if I'm not at my house I should still have a say if someone wants to fly some 50 lb contraption over it.

leetrout 12y ago

Well you don't own the airspace over your property. Based on existing regulations that's class G and is open and uncontrolled (generally from the ground to 1200' AGL)[0] And if any of the regs in part 91 end up applying- FAR 91.13 (a) just says aircraft have to be operated safely. "No person may operate an aircraft in a careless or reckless manner so as to endanger the life or property of another." So unless they were buzzing your house that might be hard to prove. The regs are loose around dropping items, too- FAR 91.15 [1]. They don't talk about needing property owner permission or anything. Maybe you could twist that in your defense since it is so loose- if something did fall from a UAV. [0] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airspace_class_%28United_States%29#Class_G http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airspace_class_%28United_States... [1] http://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgFAR.nsf/0/ad2ebda6370bb404852566cf0061287a!OpenDocument http://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgFAR.nsf...

cmurf 12y ago
FAR 91.119 [1] Proscribes what you describe. Flight below 1000' from the highest obstacle within 2000' horizontal is disallowed in congested areas (cities, towns, etc), and disallowed below 500' AGL in other than congested areas. Clearly small UASs are going to be exempt from those parts akin to the exemption for helicopters in subsection d. But there is no exemption for any aircraft from subsection a, so I'm curious how commercial or hobbyists comply with that. [1] http://www.flightsimaviation.com/data/FARS/part_91-119.html http://www.flightsimaviation.com/data/FARS/part_91-119.html

cmurf 12y ago

I think FAR 91.119(a) which I mention below applies here. The thing is, aircraft have registration requirements with the FAA so tracking down the owner/operator is straightforward. There needs to be something similar for UASs, and owner/operators will want to be really clear establishing who the operator was at a particular moment, and who has liability. That's something companies and their insurance companies will sort out over a relatively short amount of time. I'm more concerned about hobbyists than businesses at this point. Businesses have more to lose, not just lawsuits, but seriously bad imagery if someone's hurt by one of these things. (55lb doing 100mph from 500'? OK then! Look out below!)