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"I'm only getting paid $100.000 per year and it's so low, boohoo" Jesus. I live in the netherlands, which is a first world country with a very high cost of li

by Avalaxy 12y ago

"I'm only getting paid $100.000 per year and it's so low, boohoo" Jesus. I live in the netherlands, which is a first world country with a very high cost of living, and the average senior developer here only gets paid half that money. If you earn more than that you belong to the 1% most earning people on earth. Have some perspective please instead of whining about how bad you have it.

imaginenore 12y ago
This is the dumbest comment I've seen on HN this year. Even if he were in the top 1% (which he isn't), why shouldn't he strive to earn more and become top 0.1%? Just because developers in your country can't negotiate better salaries, doesn't mean the rest of us should suck it up and only eat the breadcrumbs offered.
- ziles88 12y ago
  His comment was offhand, but was rooted in truth. Wake up, this is a 'bay' thing. People in this thread are throwing around salaries that amount to more than any doctor, lawyer, or politician makes in most major world cities. A lot of people in here need a reality check, comparing their 'profession' of front end jQuery to what a doctor does - I can't believe the person above made that remark. You're all worth what the market will pay, yes, but have some humility please. We all know we're in a bubble here, no need to get a big head about it and act like 100K+ is your god given right to what amounts to one of the least capable, accountable, and professionally trained careers in the developed world. Pipe down, nobody in the late 90's bubble talked like this.
  - imaginenore 12y ago
    This is not a 'bay thing'. I make much more money than he complains about, and I work remotely for US companies. Most developers are underpaid, most don't even know by how much. We provide a lot value, we automate things resulting in tremendous savings for the businesses. Most doctors don't need to learn constantly. And we're not talking jQuery. Yes, there are hacks out there who only know it, and they do deserve a low pay. Most front end developers need to know a lot more than just jQuery to make a modern website. HTML/CSS/JS/optimization/image compression/SVG/frameworks/cookies/local storage/browser compatibility/W3C validation/debugging/data structures/algorithms/etc. The list goes on and on. If programming were easy, everyone would do it. There's a reason developers are expensive.
pastProlog 12y ago
> "I'm only getting paid $100.000 per year and it's so low, boohoo" And you advocate that more of the wealth that we create by our own labor goes to the only other involved party - those LP heirs who do not work, and parasitically suck millions and tens of millions and hundreds of millions each year from those of us who do work. Me saying I should keep more of the wealth I create is "whining" according to you. I guess the parasite heirs who suck off my labor and their toady advocates like you must hold the moral high ground then. You're the one who needs some perspective, parasite.
walshemj 12y ago
Do you earn as much as the equivalent experience in the other professions then you are being take advantage of. A simple google finds that in the Netherlands a Doctor makes between ($130,911 and $252,727) so you are being taken for a ride

by Avalaxy 12y ago

imaginenore 12y ago

This is the dumbest comment I've seen on HN this year. Even if he were in the top 1% (which he isn't), why shouldn't he strive to earn more and become top 0.1%? Just because developers in your country can't negotiate better salaries, doesn't mean the rest of us should suck it up and only eat the breadcrumbs offered.

ziles88 12y ago
His comment was offhand, but was rooted in truth. Wake up, this is a 'bay' thing. People in this thread are throwing around salaries that amount to more than any doctor, lawyer, or politician makes in most major world cities. A lot of people in here need a reality check, comparing their 'profession' of front end jQuery to what a doctor does - I can't believe the person above made that remark. You're all worth what the market will pay, yes, but have some humility please. We all know we're in a bubble here, no need to get a big head about it and act like 100K+ is your god given right to what amounts to one of the least capable, accountable, and professionally trained careers in the developed world. Pipe down, nobody in the late 90's bubble talked like this.
- imaginenore 12y ago
  This is not a 'bay thing'. I make much more money than he complains about, and I work remotely for US companies. Most developers are underpaid, most don't even know by how much. We provide a lot value, we automate things resulting in tremendous savings for the businesses. Most doctors don't need to learn constantly. And we're not talking jQuery. Yes, there are hacks out there who only know it, and they do deserve a low pay. Most front end developers need to know a lot more than just jQuery to make a modern website. HTML/CSS/JS/optimization/image compression/SVG/frameworks/cookies/local storage/browser compatibility/W3C validation/debugging/data structures/algorithms/etc. The list goes on and on. If programming were easy, everyone would do it. There's a reason developers are expensive.

pastProlog 12y ago

> "I'm only getting paid $100.000 per year and it's so low, boohoo" And you advocate that more of the wealth that we create by our own labor goes to the only other involved party - those LP heirs who do not work, and parasitically suck millions and tens of millions and hundreds of millions each year from those of us who do work. Me saying I should keep more of the wealth I create is "whining" according to you. I guess the parasite heirs who suck off my labor and their toady advocates like you must hold the moral high ground then. You're the one who needs some perspective, parasite.

walshemj 12y ago

Do you earn as much as the equivalent experience in the other professions then you are being take advantage of. A simple google finds that in the Netherlands a Doctor makes between ($130,911 and $252,727) so you are being taken for a ride