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Cybersyn influenced modern big data inasmuch as .. in its time .. big government was the only real way to get big data, so the proponents and the principles of

Cybersyn influenced modern big data inasmuch as .. in its time .. big government was the only real way to get big data, so the proponents and the principles of the subject were perpetuated all through the 80's and 90's and trickled into the commercial sphere in the same way that the technology to support the effort made its way into industry, and the public sphere in general.

swatow 12y ago
That's in interesting viewpoint, but I didn't see that expressed in the article. It did describe the people involved going on to do other things, but it did not show that they were actually influential. As I pointed out, the original title didn't claim that Big Data had its roots in Cybersyn.
- fit2rule 12y ago
  Well for those of us who have been doing computing for 30+ years, the Cybernetics movement has been very much key in developing the big data analysis process, industry, and academia .. one could 'do a grep' for all the Cyberneticists in the field and discover what they're up to now, and undoubtedly they'd be out there. I remember in the 80's at least, while working at a database vendors bunker/retreat, seeing Jay Forresters' books and papers scattered in the library, discussing Beers' techniques, and so on. Cybernetics seems to have flown under the radar of many in the modern age, but that doesn't mean it hasn't been seriously influential. This 'wave' of relevance/irrelevance is something the computer sciences deals with on a regular basis, but though the wave may be choppy, the undercurrent still flows on .. You're right though, this isn't really adequately presented in the article. Cybernetics is definitely worth investigating, though, for anyone doing big data today. So many lessons learned, forgotten, and re-learned, over and over again in the big ocean of human consciousness ..

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Cybersyn influenced modern big data inasmuch as .. in its time .. big government was the only real way to get big data, so the proponents and the principles of

by fit2rule 12y ago

swatow 12y ago
That's in interesting viewpoint, but I didn't see that expressed in the article. It did describe the people involved going on to do other things, but it did not show that they were actually influential. As I pointed out, the original title didn't claim that Big Data had its roots in Cybersyn.
- fit2rule 12y ago
  Well for those of us who have been doing computing for 30+ years, the Cybernetics movement has been very much key in developing the big data analysis process, industry, and academia .. one could 'do a grep' for all the Cyberneticists in the field and discover what they're up to now, and undoubtedly they'd be out there. I remember in the 80's at least, while working at a database vendors bunker/retreat, seeing Jay Forresters' books and papers scattered in the library, discussing Beers' techniques, and so on. Cybernetics seems to have flown under the radar of many in the modern age, but that doesn't mean it hasn't been seriously influential. This 'wave' of relevance/irrelevance is something the computer sciences deals with on a regular basis, but though the wave may be choppy, the undercurrent still flows on .. You're right though, this isn't really adequately presented in the article. Cybernetics is definitely worth investigating, though, for anyone doing big data today. So many lessons learned, forgotten, and re-learned, over and over again in the big ocean of human consciousness ..