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Corenominal's original post[1] I thought was entirely reasonable and measured: basically the crunchbang mission can be achieved entirely within a Debian stable

Corenominal's original post[1] I thought was entirely reasonable and measured: basically the crunchbang mission can be achieved entirely within a Debian stable install now. However, I suspected that someone would continue the project simply because of the branding and fun factor. And it has happened. [1] http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=38916 http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=38916

apt-bunt 12y ago
I totally agree with you on this, and with Corenomical's idea that perhaps the need for the Crunchbang distro had run its course. I understand how people like the differnt GUI tweaks provided by certain distros and why people wanted to continue Crunchbang. Continuing with Crunchbang just seems like a lot of wasted effort to me. The effort could be better spent working within the Debian project itself.
- detaro 12y ago
  Depends on how they spend their effort. Couldn't most of the unique bits be delivered as additional packages to debian, installing all the extra bits? Then it wouldn't be very much "unnecessary" effort on the way to the system they want (no shipping of packages already available etc)
- not-a-hacker 12y ago
  I am not personally capable of making a crunchbang-like distro out of Debian, and I don't like any of the many other distros I've tried. Obviously self-described hackers don't need #! because they can build it. #!'s userbase is diverse. And some of the more capable users just like the settings and can spend their hacking hours elsewhere.
stolio 12y ago
Not just fun, I don't always enjoy switching desktop environments. I've never used LXDE (I'm sure it's great) but I'd imagine switching to it is just like every other migration: it takes time before you're as productive with the new as you were with the old. And when I used it I really, really liked Openbox. You just have so much control over your environemnt. That said I'm using XFCE at the moment because it "just works" and it's doubtful it will ever require any amount of time or energy. I chose it over Openbox/Crunchbang specifically because I wanted something I didn't have to think about.
not-a-hacker 12y ago
Corenominal was somewhat wrong, however. For people like not-a-hacker, they tried and realized that all the customization that corenominal went through is more than they are willing to learn. It takes a LOT of time if you are a total end-user. Crunchbang has different types of users. No small portion of its users fall under "novice who wants an efficient, simple, but not Puppy Linux-puritanical distro."

apt-bunt 12y ago

I totally agree with you on this, and with Corenomical's idea that perhaps the need for the Crunchbang distro had run its course. I understand how people like the differnt GUI tweaks provided by certain distros and why people wanted to continue Crunchbang. Continuing with Crunchbang just seems like a lot of wasted effort to me. The effort could be better spent working within the Debian project itself.

detaro 12y ago
Depends on how they spend their effort. Couldn't most of the unique bits be delivered as additional packages to debian, installing all the extra bits? Then it wouldn't be very much "unnecessary" effort on the way to the system they want (no shipping of packages already available etc)
not-a-hacker 12y ago
I am not personally capable of making a crunchbang-like distro out of Debian, and I don't like any of the many other distros I've tried. Obviously self-described hackers don't need #! because they can build it. #!'s userbase is diverse. And some of the more capable users just like the settings and can spend their hacking hours elsewhere.

stolio 12y ago

Not just fun, I don't always enjoy switching desktop environments. I've never used LXDE (I'm sure it's great) but I'd imagine switching to it is just like every other migration: it takes time before you're as productive with the new as you were with the old. And when I used it I really, really liked Openbox. You just have so much control over your environemnt. That said I'm using XFCE at the moment because it "just works" and it's doubtful it will ever require any amount of time or energy. I chose it over Openbox/Crunchbang specifically because I wanted something I didn't have to think about.

not-a-hacker 12y ago

Corenominal was somewhat wrong, however. For people like not-a-hacker, they tried and realized that all the customization that corenominal went through is more than they are willing to learn. It takes a LOT of time if you are a total end-user. Crunchbang has different types of users. No small portion of its users fall under "novice who wants an efficient, simple, but not Puppy Linux-puritanical distro."