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I think the OPs point is that the median salary of CA is totally irrelevant to the discussion and framing it against that is rather myopic. A mechanic working i
by mbesto 12y ago
I think the OPs point is that the median salary of CA is totally irrelevant to the discussion and framing it against that is rather myopic. A mechanic working in a car shop doesn't produce the same economic value an engineer working at the "next big Facebook startup" does. There's a reason there was a lawsuit against fixing wages for these companies.[0]
[0] - http://time.com/76655/google-apple-settle-wage-fixing-lawsuit/ http://time.com/76655/google-apple-settle-wage-fixing-lawsui...
- AndrewKemendo 12y agoA mechanic working in a car shop doesn't produce the same economic value an engineer working at the "next big Facebook startup" does Talk about myopic. Apply your calculus in year 2000 and you'll see the folly there. That is insulting to everyone else making lower wages and assumes that "value" is accurately assigned. You telling me a Nurse or teacher provides less value than a dev working for a Startup that dispatches food quicker? Please make that argument for me because this idea is what is wrong with SV.
- tdfx 12y agoHe said "economic value", which is much easier to quantify than the subjective value you seem to be evaluating.
- iopq 12y agoA teacher teaches a class of 30. An engineer at an education startup will create a product that teaches millions over its existence.
- kaitai 12y agoA first-grade teacher provides role models for students, talks to parents, connects kids with social services, talks now and then to child protection, might make sure her students have coats in the winter, etc. An education startup creates a product that might provide information and feedback for the millions of people who get to use it in its existence. Don't get me wrong: I'm working on such products now. I love it. I don't have to deal with discipline problems or students' home lives. It's a different job and the products are not comparable.
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- TheCoelacanth 12y agoThe median salary for registered nurses in San Francisco is $127k[1], so no they aren't saying that. [1] http://money.usnews.com/careers/best-jobs/registered-nurse/salary http://money.usnews.com/careers/best-jobs/registered-nurse/s...
- AndrewKemendo 12y agoFrom your link: The average salary of a registered nurse working in San Francisco is $127,670 Average is often very different than median, but your point is taken. Regardless, my point stands that developers across the board provide more value than basically any other profession is shaky.
- jessaustin 12y agoAverage is often very different than median... If we were talking about CEO pay or some other value that doesn't have an effective upper bound, average would be meaningless. But we're talking about salary for RNs. There aren't many RNs making more than $250k, so you wouldn't expect the average to be too far from the median.
- sejje 12y agoIt's not strictly value to society. It's not a measure of personal worth, either. It's how much profit your work generates for the company.
- toomuchtodo 12y ago> You telling me a Nurse or teacher provides less value than a dev working for a Startup that dispatches food quicker? Please make that argument for me because this idea is what is wrong with SV. Leverage. Its all about leverage. The more people you affect, the greater the value.
- walshemj 12y agoSalary isn't related to some abstract "value" of a job