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I wonder... is there a widely know list (even if small) of what companies don't do this? If it's even possible to determine that sort of thing, it'd be valuable

I wonder... is there a widely know list (even if small) of what companies don't do this? If it's even possible to determine that sort of thing, it'd be valuable to share and make glaringly public. Even if it has no influence on the head-in-the-clouds startup leaders that play that game, it would at least be valuable for job seekers to have some assurance of who isn't wasting their time.

ma2rten 12y ago
Like OP said, AngelList gives ranges for salary and equity.
loumf 12y ago
Trello (like FogCreek and StackOverflow) has a very regimented salary process that Joel Spolsky has talked about publicly here: http://www.inc.com/magazine/20090401/how-hard-could-it-be-employees-negotiate-pay-raises.html http://www.inc.com/magazine/20090401/how-hard-could-it-be-em... There are a few elements of it: 1. There is a set salary table based on objective factors (e.g. years of full-time, professional programming experience). Your salary is 100% determined by that table and isn't negotiable. 2. The table gets updated every year for market factors. Everyone gets a raise if the market moves. You get raises by progressing through the table's objective criteria. disclaimer: I am an engineer at Trello and we're hiring: https://trello.com/jobs https://trello.com/jobs I have had a lot of visibility of developer salaries in previous positions (ran development and hired devs at 3 startups) and I spent a year as a developer evangelist (in recruiting). I found the Trello offer in line with my expectations of salary.