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>Don't want kids? Don't want to take chances? Don't have sex This attitude has served our young people terribly [0]. Whether or not you support abstinence-only

>Don't want kids? Don't want to take chances? Don't have sex This attitude has served our young people terribly [0]. Whether or not you support abstinence-only education, your absolute refusal to acknowledge the reality of human relationships and the sexual involvement that comes with it makes your advice worthless, akin to saying "Don't want to die in a car-wreck? Don't want to take chances? Don't leave your house." http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17885460 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17885460

andrewstuart2 12y ago
Your linked article is not at all talking about what I'm saying. All I'm saying by that is that there is one and only one guaranteed way to avoid pregnancy. I'm all for proper education on the alternatives but abstinence is the only contraceptive that's 100% effective at preventing pregnancy. That's why the "don't want to take chances" portion of my conclusion is so critical. Education that contraceptives are imperfect is also critical IMO.
- intopieces 12y ago
  Yes, you are correct that this is the only way guaranteed way to prevent pregnancy. That information is not only obvious and well-known (I'm not sure there is a group of people who thinks you can get pregnant without having intercourse), but the attitude behind it perpetuates a culture of misinformation, lack of information, and sex-negativity. You say you're pro-education, but your attitude doesn't reflect that, as it matches precisely the group of people that preach otherwise.
- Klinky 12y ago
  Your code will never fail, if you never code. Abstinence is basically off topic in this discussion. The goal is to "avoid pregnancy while having sex". Not having sex, is not a solution to this goal. Telling someone not to drive if they don't want to die in a car crash, does not move car safety forward. Abstinence is often used as an extinguisher of information, not as a motivator.

andrewstuart2 12y ago

Your linked article is not at all talking about what I'm saying. All I'm saying by that is that there is one and only one guaranteed way to avoid pregnancy. I'm all for proper education on the alternatives but abstinence is the only contraceptive that's 100% effective at preventing pregnancy. That's why the "don't want to take chances" portion of my conclusion is so critical. Education that contraceptives are imperfect is also critical IMO.

intopieces 12y ago
Yes, you are correct that this is the only way guaranteed way to prevent pregnancy. That information is not only obvious and well-known (I'm not sure there is a group of people who thinks you can get pregnant without having intercourse), but the attitude behind it perpetuates a culture of misinformation, lack of information, and sex-negativity. You say you're pro-education, but your attitude doesn't reflect that, as it matches precisely the group of people that preach otherwise.
Klinky 12y ago
Your code will never fail, if you never code. Abstinence is basically off topic in this discussion. The goal is to "avoid pregnancy while having sex". Not having sex, is not a solution to this goal. Telling someone not to drive if they don't want to die in a car crash, does not move car safety forward. Abstinence is often used as an extinguisher of information, not as a motivator.