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i imagine the reason you're using a throwaway account (created 53 minutes ago, the same time as your comment as of my reading it) and guarding your words carefu

i imagine the reason you're using a throwaway account (created 53 minutes ago, the same time as your comment as of my reading it) and guarding your words carefully is because you're tiptoeing around the fact that.... sometimes women lie about taking birth control in order to get pregnant 'accidentally on purpose'. men and women both do terrible things; this is one of the things women do.

jakobegger 12y ago
I strongly doubt that's what was meant. Contraceptives require a lot of discipline to be used correctly. Did you accidentally try putting a condom on the wrong way? Don't turn it around, throw it away. Did you have diarrhea after taking the pill? No sex this month. The effectiveness of a contraceptive depends a lot on the discipline (and personality) of the people using them. Many people don't even read the instructions that come with the contraceptives. That's why they are ineffective, not because partners lie to another about using contraceptives.
- debaserab2 12y ago
  Yep, and on top of that they may be ineffective when combined with other medicine such as antibiotics. With the way antibiotics are handed out in the US, it's not a given that this fact is made clear to patients that could be effected.
- beachstartup 12y ago
  > That's why they are ineffective, not because partners lie to another about using contraceptives. sorry, i just don't agree. you seem to entirely discount deception and coercion, which are the female and male forms of the same kind of birth control 'failures' that people tend to lie about on surveys.
  - anon4 12y ago
    The good part is that the deception is already baked-in into the final statistics. Basically it tells you "if the woman you're sleeping with is on the pill, you have this much chance of having an unexpected child". So wear a condom and start getting paranoid when she asks that you have sex without one. disclaimer: I am not a sex expert

jakobegger 12y ago

I strongly doubt that's what was meant. Contraceptives require a lot of discipline to be used correctly. Did you accidentally try putting a condom on the wrong way? Don't turn it around, throw it away. Did you have diarrhea after taking the pill? No sex this month. The effectiveness of a contraceptive depends a lot on the discipline (and personality) of the people using them. Many people don't even read the instructions that come with the contraceptives. That's why they are ineffective, not because partners lie to another about using contraceptives.

debaserab2 12y ago
Yep, and on top of that they may be ineffective when combined with other medicine such as antibiotics. With the way antibiotics are handed out in the US, it's not a given that this fact is made clear to patients that could be effected.
beachstartup 12y ago
> That's why they are ineffective, not because partners lie to another about using contraceptives. sorry, i just don't agree. you seem to entirely discount deception and coercion, which are the female and male forms of the same kind of birth control 'failures' that people tend to lie about on surveys.
- anon4 12y ago
  The good part is that the deception is already baked-in into the final statistics. Basically it tells you "if the woman you're sleeping with is on the pill, you have this much chance of having an unexpected child". So wear a condom and start getting paranoid when she asks that you have sex without one. disclaimer: I am not a sex expert