Agreed, and as do I. Perhaps our tone has gotten too rancorous. Civil people can disagree without being disagreeable, and I know from your comments around the

Agreed, and as do I. Perhaps our tone has gotten too rancorous. Civil people can disagree without being disagreeable, and I know from your comments around the site that you're a civil person, so if my tone has been less than appropriate I apologize. As for the conversation itself, as you said, it stands as is, and we can let the other readers judge the facts for themselves.