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> so far from truth Western media isn't corrupt and unfree, or is more honest? Citation required. Yes, RT is a propaganda organ, just like much of the western

> so far from truth Western media isn't corrupt and unfree, or is more honest? Citation required. Yes, RT is a propaganda organ, just like much of the western media (corporate or otherwise). But at least on RT, I get to see alternative viewpoints of western concerns. You'll never see someone like a Chomsky on NBC/CBS/ABC/Fox/CNN - at least alternatives get a microphone on RT. In western media, I get to see alternatives to non-Western propaganda organs. Here's RT covering Syria/Lebanon in 2012. Way more objective than anything you'll ever see on US networks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yho_m0HRa9c#t=1076 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yho_m0HRa9c#t=1076 And also, more accurate - if you'd been watching CNN, they'd have been telling you Assad's days were numbered.

mahranch 12y ago
Are you really trying to equate CNN with a state-owned and operated news agency? Those news agencies are explicitly biased. Their sole goal in news reporting isn't profit or appeasing shareholders, but pushing their narrative of world events. Pushing their countries' ideology out onto the world. That's their only reason for existing. They don't care about profit or integrity in the slightest. If you think that's the same as a for-profit company, you're incredibly deluded. The lesser of two evils is a real thing, life isn't black or white. Just because I jaywalked yesterday and committed a crime doesn't mean I'm the same as a meth dealer. The equivalence is beyond naive.
- hindsightbias 12y ago
  You clearly have never watched RT. You have been indoctrinated by some illusion of free market delusion - typical of HN. If CNN cared about integrity nobody would be working there anymore. That you see this as an absolute black/white, good/evil and a strawman speaks to your ideology, not mine.
  - mahranch 12y ago
    > You clearly have never watched RT. I don't need to, to know that it's a state-run news agency looking to push their narrative out into the world. They don't even try to hide it. That's quite literally their sole reason for existing. Do they have good articles from time to time? I don't know, probably or they wouldn't be as successful as they are. But I'm not going to find out. I try to minimize the bias in getting my news, not expose myself to as much of it as possible. That's like forcing myself to read nazi propaganda because they might make a valid point in the second paragraph of chapter 23. In the end, it's still rubbish.

mahranch 12y ago

Are you really trying to equate CNN with a state-owned and operated news agency? Those news agencies are explicitly biased. Their sole goal in news reporting isn't profit or appeasing shareholders, but pushing their narrative of world events. Pushing their countries' ideology out onto the world. That's their only reason for existing. They don't care about profit or integrity in the slightest. If you think that's the same as a for-profit company, you're incredibly deluded. The lesser of two evils is a real thing, life isn't black or white. Just because I jaywalked yesterday and committed a crime doesn't mean I'm the same as a meth dealer. The equivalence is beyond naive.

hindsightbias 12y ago
You clearly have never watched RT. You have been indoctrinated by some illusion of free market delusion - typical of HN. If CNN cared about integrity nobody would be working there anymore. That you see this as an absolute black/white, good/evil and a strawman speaks to your ideology, not mine.
- mahranch 12y ago
  > You clearly have never watched RT. I don't need to, to know that it's a state-run news agency looking to push their narrative out into the world. They don't even try to hide it. That's quite literally their sole reason for existing. Do they have good articles from time to time? I don't know, probably or they wouldn't be as successful as they are. But I'm not going to find out. I try to minimize the bias in getting my news, not expose myself to as much of it as possible. That's like forcing myself to read nazi propaganda because they might make a valid point in the second paragraph of chapter 23. In the end, it's still rubbish.