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As long as we don't expect Linux to exist for another 85 years ;)

by thirsteh 12y ago

Pxtl 12y ago
100.01 still works expect for alphabetical sorting. The worry happens at 985 years.
- mlinksva 12y ago
  Numeric sorting can still work after 985 years. Only question is whether to use 1000.01 or 3000.01. I slightly prefer former, as a final rejection of the culture-specific BC/AC split. The ascendance of the net is the beginning of the real CE. Though skipping year notation altogether for seconds (or some 10s multiple of) since the epoch would also be fun for versioning.
  - Perceval 12y ago
    > the culture-specific BC/AC split Any dating scheme is going to be culture-specific. The point you pick to be "year zero" is always going to be a point in time that's culturally valuable. > The ascendance of the net is the beginning of the real CE. That's an assertion that a marker you find culturally important (as a techie) is more meaningful to you than a marker that other people find culturally significant. You could just as well choose the Before Present dating scheme, which defines "present" as 1 January 1950, roughly the point in time when the number of atomic explosions made radiocarbon dating obsolete (and the beginning of an astronomical epoch). But that is also culturally-specific, relative to the concerns of a certain epistemic community.
    - weinzierl 12y ago
      There is no year zero in Common Era/Anno Domini.
      - Perceval 12y ago
        "Year Zero" was more a reference to the idea of trying to wipe out symbols of past culture (i.e. Anno Domini) for political reasons: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_Zero_%28political_notion%29 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_Zero_%28political_notion%...
    - mlinksva 12y ago
      You're right, thanks. The claims in my comment require lots of qualification, are embarrassing without. I enjoy your a[s]t[ron]omic epoch year zero idea. One could start from much further back (eg beginning of universe, earth, modern humans, writing) but those would all be specific to the culture estimating them and to what that culture valued.
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As long as we don't expect Linux to exist for another 85 years ;)

Pxtl 12y ago

100.01 still works expect for alphabetical sorting. The worry happens at 985 years.

mlinksva 12y ago
Numeric sorting can still work after 985 years. Only question is whether to use 1000.01 or 3000.01. I slightly prefer former, as a final rejection of the culture-specific BC/AC split. The ascendance of the net is the beginning of the real CE. Though skipping year notation altogether for seconds (or some 10s multiple of) since the epoch would also be fun for versioning.
- Perceval 12y ago
  > the culture-specific BC/AC split Any dating scheme is going to be culture-specific. The point you pick to be "year zero" is always going to be a point in time that's culturally valuable. > The ascendance of the net is the beginning of the real CE. That's an assertion that a marker you find culturally important (as a techie) is more meaningful to you than a marker that other people find culturally significant. You could just as well choose the Before Present dating scheme, which defines "present" as 1 January 1950, roughly the point in time when the number of atomic explosions made radiocarbon dating obsolete (and the beginning of an astronomical epoch). But that is also culturally-specific, relative to the concerns of a certain epistemic community.
  - weinzierl 12y ago
    There is no year zero in Common Era/Anno Domini.
    - Perceval 12y ago
      "Year Zero" was more a reference to the idea of trying to wipe out symbols of past culture (i.e. Anno Domini) for political reasons: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_Zero_%28political_notion%29 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_Zero_%28political_notion%...
  - mlinksva 12y ago
    You're right, thanks. The claims in my comment require lots of qualification, are embarrassing without. I enjoy your a[s]t[ron]omic epoch year zero idea. One could start from much further back (eg beginning of universe, earth, modern humans, writing) but those would all be specific to the culture estimating them and to what that culture valued.
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