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Or better yet, via git push and a post-receive hook to touch tmp/restart.txt...

by ionfish 17y ago

steveklabnik 17y ago
Or better yet, using Capistrano to do that and more.
- tptacek 17y ago
  Things like Capistrano are the reason this person gave up Rails for PHP, and I don't really blame them.
  - steveklabnik 17y ago
    Why? I mean, for a very basic setup, you just run 'capify .', and then change some passwords, and you're good to go. It doesn't even really take any configuring. Here's the thing: good engineering means that you should automate as much as possible. That way, everything is consitant. One command deployment is amazing, regardless of your technology stack.
    - tptacek 17y ago
      It's more complicated than just scp'ing files over. That's all I have to say. It's fine to say that it's also better engineering, but that doesn't address the original article. Ruby is also a better engineered language than PHP in a lot of ways.
      - steveklabnik 17y ago
        'cap deploy' is easier than 'scp here there'.
        tptacek 17y ago
        [9:28pm:/playbook] DIVISION:tqbf [0:279]% cap deploy the task `deploy' does not exist
        steveklabnik 17y ago
        Really? I'm pretty new to Capistrano, but 'deploy' was just kind of built in or something. That's very strange.
      - dasil003 17y ago
        Ruby is also a better engineered language than PHP in a lot of ways. I would say better designed, but the engineering definitely leaves a lot to be desired. Here's hoping Rubinius gets finished one day.
        ionfish 17y ago
        Well, there's also JRuby, and YARV is a lot better than MRI, although the libraries haven't quite caught up yet.
      - alttab 17y ago
        Ruby wasn't even a semi-mainstream competitor for web development until Ruby on Rails came along, so even comparing it to PHP (or worse, thinking Ruby and RoR is the same thing) is where a lot of the confusion starts.
      - catch23 17y ago
        yeah, for most simple apps, scp will do the trick, but anytime you start writing scripts to upload the same set of files on 5 different machines, it's time to use capistrano.

Or better yet, via git push and a post-receive hook to touch tmp/restart.txt...

by ionfish 17y ago

Or better yet, via git push and a post-receive hook to touch tmp/restart.txt...

steveklabnik 17y ago

Or better yet, using Capistrano to do that and more.

tptacek 17y ago
Things like Capistrano are the reason this person gave up Rails for PHP, and I don't really blame them.
- steveklabnik 17y ago
  Why? I mean, for a very basic setup, you just run 'capify .', and then change some passwords, and you're good to go. It doesn't even really take any configuring. Here's the thing: good engineering means that you should automate as much as possible. That way, everything is consitant. One command deployment is amazing, regardless of your technology stack.
  - tptacek 17y ago
    It's more complicated than just scp'ing files over. That's all I have to say. It's fine to say that it's also better engineering, but that doesn't address the original article. Ruby is also a better engineered language than PHP in a lot of ways.
    - steveklabnik 17y ago
      'cap deploy' is easier than 'scp here there'.
      - tptacek 17y ago
        [9:28pm:/playbook] DIVISION:tqbf [0:279]% cap deploy the task `deploy' does not exist
        steveklabnik 17y ago
        Really? I'm pretty new to Capistrano, but 'deploy' was just kind of built in or something. That's very strange.
    - dasil003 17y ago
      Ruby is also a better engineered language than PHP in a lot of ways. I would say better designed, but the engineering definitely leaves a lot to be desired. Here's hoping Rubinius gets finished one day.
      - ionfish 17y ago
        Well, there's also JRuby, and YARV is a lot better than MRI, although the libraries haven't quite caught up yet.
    - alttab 17y ago
      Ruby wasn't even a semi-mainstream competitor for web development until Ruby on Rails came along, so even comparing it to PHP (or worse, thinking Ruby and RoR is the same thing) is where a lot of the confusion starts.
    - catch23 17y ago
      yeah, for most simple apps, scp will do the trick, but anytime you start writing scripts to upload the same set of files on 5 different machines, it's time to use capistrano.