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Bluntly, when I make and release content for free I'm generally not very interested in paying for small boost in user numbers. Especially since for most videos,

by Kalium 12y ago

Bluntly, when I make and release content for free I'm generally not very interested in paying for small boost in user numbers. Especially since for most videos, that 7-15% boost is maybe ten views.

jamesbrownuhh 12y ago
Fine - your choice. No-one is suggesting otherwise.
DanBC 12y ago
It's weird that some sections of HN obsess over AB testing the colours of buttons and are happy to pay for that, but putting captions on a video and it's fuck those deaf people. And they don't seem to realise that it's not just deaf people that benefit from captions. There are a bunch of situations where I could really do with captions -- coffee shops; planes; late nights; etc etc.
- netheril96 12y ago
  Because AB testing is for business and for earning money, and the caption thing is about free content that you get nothing in return?
  - DanBC 12y ago
    So why bother putting out that free content in the first place? In the scheme of things adding captions costs very little and provides benefits to many people, not just those with a hearing impairment. The cost of producing and hosting the material is very much greater than the small cost of providing captions.
    - hga 12y ago
      "The cost of producing and hosting the material is very much greater than the small cost of providing captions." So should Google be added to the lawsuit, since they're the ones hosting the called out badly auto-captioned videos, unless of course they're charging Harvard and MIT for the whole service? I also strongly challenge your contention that noways initial costs of production are so high. Hosting, I don't know, but isn't it getting steadily cheaper?
    - Kalium 12y ago
      It's more work and more cost for a small gain. Why take on extra cost and work without a business impetus? And no, production and hosting costs are not nearly as high as they used to be. It's now possible to produce content for minimal marginal cost.
- pekk 12y ago
  For me it's not about fuck those deaf people, or about captions being bad. It's about "I am not a big company and I have finite time and dollars to caption every bit of content I produce".

by Kalium 12y ago

Bluntly, when I make and release content for free I'm generally not very interested in paying for small boost in user numbers. Especially since for most videos, that 7-15% boost is maybe ten views.

jamesbrownuhh 12y ago

Fine - your choice. No-one is suggesting otherwise.

DanBC 12y ago

It's weird that some sections of HN obsess over AB testing the colours of buttons and are happy to pay for that, but putting captions on a video and it's fuck those deaf people. And they don't seem to realise that it's not just deaf people that benefit from captions. There are a bunch of situations where I could really do with captions -- coffee shops; planes; late nights; etc etc.

netheril96 12y ago
Because AB testing is for business and for earning money, and the caption thing is about free content that you get nothing in return?
- DanBC 12y ago
  So why bother putting out that free content in the first place? In the scheme of things adding captions costs very little and provides benefits to many people, not just those with a hearing impairment. The cost of producing and hosting the material is very much greater than the small cost of providing captions.
  - hga 12y ago
    "The cost of producing and hosting the material is very much greater than the small cost of providing captions." So should Google be added to the lawsuit, since they're the ones hosting the called out badly auto-captioned videos, unless of course they're charging Harvard and MIT for the whole service? I also strongly challenge your contention that noways initial costs of production are so high. Hosting, I don't know, but isn't it getting steadily cheaper?
  - Kalium 12y ago
    It's more work and more cost for a small gain. Why take on extra cost and work without a business impetus? And no, production and hosting costs are not nearly as high as they used to be. It's now possible to produce content for minimal marginal cost.
pekk 12y ago
For me it's not about fuck those deaf people, or about captions being bad. It's about "I am not a big company and I have finite time and dollars to caption every bit of content I produce".