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You're terrified by the idea that someone should be fired for gross unprofessionalism? To repeat: she did not deserve ANY bullying or harassment whatsoever. D

You're terrified by the idea that someone should be fired for gross unprofessionalism? To repeat: she did not deserve ANY bullying or harassment whatsoever. Did you experience consequences of the stupid actions you've taken?

andybak 12y ago
> To repeat: she did not deserve ANY bullying or harassment whatsoever. That wasn't clear. You said the "outcome was fair" - the outcome was that her life was ruined.
- gearoidoc 12y ago
  I also said: No one deserves to be bullied or harassed but consequences need to exist to actions. I meant the outcome from a professional standpoint was fair. I don't believe how her life has been "ruined" as I've explained elsewhere.
  - tertius 12y ago
    Clearly the person who fired her only did so because of public outcry, i.e. the bullying. That was in their best interest. It wasn't fair. It wasn't a consequence equal to her action. It may have been equal to the reaction to her tweet, but that reaction was unjust. The consequences of the bullying, given her being fired, is much worse than if she was not fired. Her ability to compete in the workplace has been severely diminished because of this. Her PTSD that she will probably suffer for a long time has been greatly exacerbated by her firing. Given the worst intention of her tweet (ignorance), getting fired was still not the right reaction to her "crime." Do people need to be held accountable to their actions? I agree that they should. Outside of criminal law (since this wasn't criminal), the mob is not the right group to decide what the correct consequence of her actions should be. History shows that this leads to barbarism, which this was a case of. She didn't get what was coming to her, she got much worse.
  - zem 12y ago
    if you think the outcome from a professional standpoint was fair, you have a very bleak and dystopian view of fairness. she was posting something to her own private twitter account in her own time; it had nothing to do with the job.
650REDHAIR 12y ago
Gross unprofessionalism? She wasn't on the job. It wasn't an official account.
- MichaelGG 12y ago
  You'd think a PR person would know PR doesn't take breaks or consider unofficial stuff to be out of bounds.
- gearoidoc 12y ago
  I'd like to live to a world where your actions outside of the workplace in a physical or online sense don't affect how you're perceived but it's just not true.
  - celticninja 12y ago
    Not true because of people like you who force the link, who call,email and tweet employers about the behaviour of their off duty staff.
    - gearoidoc 12y ago
      because of people like you ^Thats quite an assumption to make, no? For the record, I've never done any of the above.
      - celticninja 12y ago
        I think you understand what I mean but are perhaps being dense for the sake of argument. There are people who hold simile views to yourself and these people take it up on themselves to bring people's employers into arguments that they have no part of or perhaps would be otherwise unaware of. That's not to say the employer cannot have a response to comments and posts of this nature but they are not allowed to deal with it in a professional manner because the mob is baying at their door.
        12y ago
bentcorner 12y ago
I've posted something online that almost got me fired. No racists remarks, no hate, it was just some techincal info I shouldn't have shared. The power that a few sentences can have is sometimes terrifying.
- dredmorbius 12y ago
  Among the reasons that I "am" "Dr. Edward Morbius" and "work" is "Krell Power Systems, Unlimited".

andybak 12y ago

> To repeat: she did not deserve ANY bullying or harassment whatsoever. That wasn't clear. You said the "outcome was fair" - the outcome was that her life was ruined.

gearoidoc 12y ago
I also said: No one deserves to be bullied or harassed but consequences need to exist to actions. I meant the outcome from a professional standpoint was fair. I don't believe how her life has been "ruined" as I've explained elsewhere.
- tertius 12y ago
  Clearly the person who fired her only did so because of public outcry, i.e. the bullying. That was in their best interest. It wasn't fair. It wasn't a consequence equal to her action. It may have been equal to the reaction to her tweet, but that reaction was unjust. The consequences of the bullying, given her being fired, is much worse than if she was not fired. Her ability to compete in the workplace has been severely diminished because of this. Her PTSD that she will probably suffer for a long time has been greatly exacerbated by her firing. Given the worst intention of her tweet (ignorance), getting fired was still not the right reaction to her "crime." Do people need to be held accountable to their actions? I agree that they should. Outside of criminal law (since this wasn't criminal), the mob is not the right group to decide what the correct consequence of her actions should be. History shows that this leads to barbarism, which this was a case of. She didn't get what was coming to her, she got much worse.
- zem 12y ago
  if you think the outcome from a professional standpoint was fair, you have a very bleak and dystopian view of fairness. she was posting something to her own private twitter account in her own time; it had nothing to do with the job.

650REDHAIR 12y ago

Gross unprofessionalism? She wasn't on the job. It wasn't an official account.

MichaelGG 12y ago
You'd think a PR person would know PR doesn't take breaks or consider unofficial stuff to be out of bounds.
gearoidoc 12y ago
I'd like to live to a world where your actions outside of the workplace in a physical or online sense don't affect how you're perceived but it's just not true.
- celticninja 12y ago
  Not true because of people like you who force the link, who call,email and tweet employers about the behaviour of their off duty staff.
  - gearoidoc 12y ago
    because of people like you ^Thats quite an assumption to make, no? For the record, I've never done any of the above.
    - celticninja 12y ago
      I think you understand what I mean but are perhaps being dense for the sake of argument. There are people who hold simile views to yourself and these people take it up on themselves to bring people's employers into arguments that they have no part of or perhaps would be otherwise unaware of. That's not to say the employer cannot have a response to comments and posts of this nature but they are not allowed to deal with it in a professional manner because the mob is baying at their door.
      - 12y ago

bentcorner 12y ago

I've posted something online that almost got me fired. No racists remarks, no hate, it was just some techincal info I shouldn't have shared. The power that a few sentences can have is sometimes terrifying.

dredmorbius 12y ago
Among the reasons that I "am" "Dr. Edward Morbius" and "work" is "Krell Power Systems, Unlimited".