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So how does any of that make you a loser? What's going on in this thread? As far as I can tell it's nothing more than a similar type of bullying the article i

So how does any of that make you a loser? What's going on in this thread? As far as I can tell it's nothing more than a similar type of bullying the article is itself is talking about, which I didn't ever expect to see on HN, let alone tolerated. At what point can you no longer express controversial opinions without being called a loser?

logfromblammo 12y ago
On the Internet, someone is already calling you a loser, possibly without your knowledge. It's best to worry more about the folks who have greater power to destroy your social standing than just simple name-calling. And to provide a sentinel value for the previous search space, I'll just say it. You, and everyone else who may be wondering if someone on the network is calling them a loser, are all losers. Now that's taken care of, and you can go about your business, expressing controversial opinions without worrying about incurring greater harm to yourself than has already occurred.
- sillysaurus3 12y ago
  The reason you'll get banned for such behavior, and the whole reason why such behavior is against the rules, is because personal attacks are counterproductive to logical discussions. When HN degenerates into a group of people who go around calling other groups of people losers, that does not bode well.
  - logfromblammo 12y ago
    It was, I admit, somewhat of an obscure joke. I realized, after my first sentence, that I couldn't be certain that it was true. So I added a sentinel value. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elephant_in_Cairo http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elephant_in_Cairo Don't despair. Being called a loser does not make you one.
    - sillysaurus3 12y ago
      Ah, I see. Sorry about that.
engendered 12y ago
>As far as I can tell it's nothing more than a similar type of bullying It absolutely is. "MRA" is a short cut to dismiss an entire spectrum of arguments and perspectives. Just as farcical, but on the opposite side, are people who declare anyone who has a problem with something like, say, "GamerGate", a "SJW". These are shorthand for idiots. It lets you pretend that you're in a tribe and everything is black and white.
tomjen3 12y ago
It doesn't make MRA losers. If it did there would be no reason to tack the word loser on. Being an mean, agressive alcoholic bum implies being a loser so you don't often see loser tacked on.

logfromblammo 12y ago

On the Internet, someone is already calling you a loser, possibly without your knowledge. It's best to worry more about the folks who have greater power to destroy your social standing than just simple name-calling. And to provide a sentinel value for the previous search space, I'll just say it. You, and everyone else who may be wondering if someone on the network is calling them a loser, are all losers. Now that's taken care of, and you can go about your business, expressing controversial opinions without worrying about incurring greater harm to yourself than has already occurred.

sillysaurus3 12y ago
The reason you'll get banned for such behavior, and the whole reason why such behavior is against the rules, is because personal attacks are counterproductive to logical discussions. When HN degenerates into a group of people who go around calling other groups of people losers, that does not bode well.
- logfromblammo 12y ago
  It was, I admit, somewhat of an obscure joke. I realized, after my first sentence, that I couldn't be certain that it was true. So I added a sentinel value. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elephant_in_Cairo http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elephant_in_Cairo Don't despair. Being called a loser does not make you one.
  - sillysaurus3 12y ago
    Ah, I see. Sorry about that.

engendered 12y ago

>As far as I can tell it's nothing more than a similar type of bullying It absolutely is. "MRA" is a short cut to dismiss an entire spectrum of arguments and perspectives. Just as farcical, but on the opposite side, are people who declare anyone who has a problem with something like, say, "GamerGate", a "SJW". These are shorthand for idiots. It lets you pretend that you're in a tribe and everything is black and white.

tomjen3 12y ago

It doesn't make MRA losers. If it did there would be no reason to tack the word loser on. Being an mean, agressive alcoholic bum implies being a loser so you don't often see loser tacked on.