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DISCLAIMER: I am one of the many Tox ex-contributors, who used to work on it in the past. I don't want to be identified due to harassment other ex-contributors
by ex-contributor 12y ago
DISCLAIMER: I am one of the many Tox ex-contributors, who used to work on it in the past. I don't want to be identified due to harassment other ex-contributors suffered in the past. The following message is my point of view on the project as a whole.
Proplex, a long-time member of the Tox-Foundation and in charge of both infrastructure and marketing, called out tox devs because the 2 people in charge (irungentoo and stqism) were dealing with money in a shady way and he got suspicious. This lead him to leaving the Tox Foundation
Proof: https://gist.github.com/irungentoo/5af26f5edefcdb7eac72 https://gist.github.com/irungentoo/5af26f5edefcdb7eac72
After he went away and stopped to pay for the website and other servers (he hosted everything), Tox devs got angry and tracked his online activity by his browser UA, read his private email sent to his @tox.im address and considered breaking into his VPS account
Proof: https://gist.github.com/urras/ba792274f5aaf662a082/5d91d2a780b38e015cd4dc331eb68038f09f5c2f https://gist.github.com/urras/ba792274f5aaf662a082/5d91d2a78... and https://archive.today/KkSWp https://archive.today/KkSWp
Members of the Tox Foundation such as stqism try constantly to sneak in copyright changes in unrelated fixes:
Proof: https://github.com/irungentoo/toxcore/pull/1219 https://github.com/irungentoo/toxcore/pull/1219 and https://github.com/irungentoo/toxcore/pull/1224 https://github.com/irungentoo/toxcore/pull/1224
irungentoo enforced censorship on his github repo to try to cover everything up
Proof: https://github.com/irungentoo/toxcore/issues/1227 https://github.com/irungentoo/toxcore/issues/1227
After it got out of hand and too many people called out the Tox Foundation, this happened:
Proof: http://a.pomf.se/kqwgsg.png http://a.pomf.se/kqwgsg.png
irungentoo claims Tox is secure just because he uses a secure primitive, which is really arrogant and something only a pretentious deceiver would say. This is a crypto 101 mistake.
Proof: https://github.com/irungentoo/toxcore/issues/121#issuecomment-35750212 https://github.com/irungentoo/toxcore/issues/121#issuecommen...
After the points exposed above, the conclusion is obvious, at least for me.
The Tox Foundation claims Tox is completely secure and nobody can break in, not even the NSA. Still, there's been no security audit and it is highly likely Tox isn't completely secure, given it's alpha software. But their website gives the idea people face no risk by using Tox right now. They are deceiving people to believe it is secure so they gain more users at the expense of putting users privacy at risk.
Proof: https://tox.im https://tox.im itself. See all security claims even though it hasn't been audited. Saying it's "alpha" doesn't mean to anything to non-tech-savvy, they will think it's missing a feature or two, not that their privacy and security is possibly compromised.
I believe it's my moral obligation, and of everyone's else reading this, not to use Tox.
You are contributing to a shady foundation composed of menchildren that don't care about other's privacy, deals with money in a shady way and dox people who go against them. Do not trust the Tox Foundation - this is my personal message.
- impossibru 12y agoThis is literally a 4chan troll copying and pasting the same thing over and over again on /g/ http://rbt.asia/g/?task=search&ghost=yes&search_text=%22After+it+got+out+of+hand+and+too+many+people+called+out+the+Tox+Foundation%2C+this+happened%22 http://rbt.asia/g/?task=search&ghost=yes&search_text=%22Afte... http://rbt.asia/g/?task=search&ghost=yes&search_text=The+%22IP+leakage%22+is+a+troll+to+take+our+attention http://rbt.asia/g/?task=search&ghost=yes&search_text=The+%22... If you actually go and see the "proof" links you'll see most of them are 404 because the OP didn't bother to updating them.
- ex-contributor 12y agoOr maybe the Tox Foundation is covering it up? Hopefully I archive most for good measure. https://archive.today/Y6LEw https://archive.today/Y6LEw https://archive.today/MajJV https://archive.today/MajJV https://archive.today/KkSWp https://archive.today/KkSWp https://archive.today/CWBUp https://archive.today/CWBUp http://a.pomf.se/kqwgsg.png http://a.pomf.se/kqwgsg.png
- impossibru 12y agoYeah I read all that and it's really the main dev trying to track down the guy who maintained all the servers because he dropped everything. Maybe he acted awkwardly, I don't know, I don't care; the point is, there isn't some sort of "Tox Foundation conspiracy" trying to deceive everyone (as if the tox community was large enough to be worth deceiving) and given your tendency to shitpost on 4chan I would be more inclined this is another epic troll attempt to sabotage a project that actually went off.
- tox-exposed 12y agoDo not trust the main Dev, he called me a nigger and a faggot when I asked how to install Tox. He is a racist bigot.
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