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I'm really starting to love what Microsoft is doing and I feel like they are trying hard to court non-MS developers. Part of me badly wants to jump back to the

I'm really starting to love what Microsoft is doing and I feel like they are trying hard to court non-MS developers. Part of me badly wants to jump back to the MS world. The Surface Pro 3 looks like an ideal machine for me and I do miss Visual Studio. But I just can't do it without real POSIX support. I'm just invested in a POSIX world. I want native BASH, fork, a git that isn't 5x slower (last I tried), and a real terminal. So, Microsoft... if you're reading this, can you please, pretty please, add a nice officially supported not-going-anywhere POSIX layer to your OS? It's the reason I switched to OS X, and it would be the reason I'd switch back to MS. It's almost the only thing you're missing from my side of the developer culture.

notduncansmith 12y ago
So much this. I'm really proud of Microsoft for the strides they've made lately, but like you, I switched to Mac specifically because of the underlying UNIX layer. Too much of our world is in POSIX land, and I like it that way. Alternatively, I'd be happy if .NET were truly cross-platform, so I could use my Mac to develop apps for the Windows Phone I'm typing this from (without a VM).
kazagistar 12y ago
I realize this does not meet the implied requirement of not having to relearn a bunch of stuff, but PowerShell certainly qualifies as a real terminal, just different.
- pjc50 12y ago
  Can one start a Powershell remotely in the same manner as ssh?
  - nailer 12y ago
    There's powershell remoting for this. You can also SSH into a Windows box with powershell server, it's expensive though. If Microsoft just purchased it and made it an add on, I suspect a lot of Unix people would be pleasantly surprised by how rad powershell is.
    - nailer 12y ago
      Link for anyone interested: http://www.powershellserver.com/overview/ssh/ http://www.powershellserver.com/overview/ssh/
netheril96 12y ago
And support for UTF-8.

notduncansmith 12y ago

So much this. I'm really proud of Microsoft for the strides they've made lately, but like you, I switched to Mac specifically because of the underlying UNIX layer. Too much of our world is in POSIX land, and I like it that way. Alternatively, I'd be happy if .NET were truly cross-platform, so I could use my Mac to develop apps for the Windows Phone I'm typing this from (without a VM).

kazagistar 12y ago

I realize this does not meet the implied requirement of not having to relearn a bunch of stuff, but PowerShell certainly qualifies as a real terminal, just different.

pjc50 12y ago
Can one start a Powershell remotely in the same manner as ssh?
- nailer 12y ago
  There's powershell remoting for this. You can also SSH into a Windows box with powershell server, it's expensive though. If Microsoft just purchased it and made it an add on, I suspect a lot of Unix people would be pleasantly surprised by how rad powershell is.
  - nailer 12y ago
    Link for anyone interested: http://www.powershellserver.com/overview/ssh/ http://www.powershellserver.com/overview/ssh/

netheril96 12y ago

And support for UTF-8.