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Yep. I never used to use search operators unless I was looking for something really specific. Nowadays I get completely irrelevant results and I am forced to qu

by mahmud 17y ago

Yep. I never used to use search operators unless I was looking for something really specific. Nowadays I get completely irrelevant results and I am forced to quote strings and explicitly specify term precedence, conditionals and other regexy stuff. Last night I was searching for the syntax of DEFTYPE when used with various types (i.e. MEMBER, SATISFIES, OR, etc.) and the #1 his for "deftype member" was the personal MySpace page of some guy. I think they're optimizing for "social" results now.

Skeuomorph 17y ago
It's also aggravating that quotes don't allow matching of specific symbols within the quotes. And, yes, the results are different. I'd agree with you they seem enhanced (eg., classified results) and fresher for popular culture, but somewhat worse for domain specific queries.
- boredguy8 17y ago
  Which is dangerous, since it seems like the biggest threat to Google has always been the 'vertical' search market. If they don't have a better way to narrow search results to a specific domain, they're going to run into issues from competitors.
asyazwan 17y ago
Can't agree more. Let's hope in the future we can choose to search for tech-specific results.
- zackattack 17y ago
  There's evidently a market for a tech-specific search engine..
NikkiA 17y ago
They'd probably do well to have a seperate 'technical search' for searching for things related to technical matters, eg programming languages, physics, chemistry, medicine, engineering, etc. And remove the casual stuff (facebook, myspace, pages that are clearly not about a technical subject, etc) from that index. It would probably be a highly praised feature to seperate off a second index like that, as specifically searching for programming language concepts and documentation can be difficult (the C# and .NET problem).
- Perceval 17y ago
  Having separate indexes and separate searches for sub-domains of knowledge is an interesting idea. The original idea of PageRank was that each link constituted a 'vote' for a page. Perhaps different epistemic communities on the internet use links to mean different things. So, the meaning of links on technical webpages is slightly different from the meaning of links on social websites. Interesting idea to play around with.
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coliveira 17y ago
Wait until they integrate twitter. It will be 99% real-time crap and 1% historical results... Google should just stay away from real time frenzy, or maybe fork the search engine to avoid disrupting the good results it has.
abstractbill 17y ago
Just out of interest, do you find lispdoc.com useful generally for this kind of thing?

by mahmud 17y ago

Skeuomorph 17y ago

It's also aggravating that quotes don't allow matching of specific symbols within the quotes. And, yes, the results are different. I'd agree with you they seem enhanced (eg., classified results) and fresher for popular culture, but somewhat worse for domain specific queries.

boredguy8 17y ago
Which is dangerous, since it seems like the biggest threat to Google has always been the 'vertical' search market. If they don't have a better way to narrow search results to a specific domain, they're going to run into issues from competitors.

asyazwan 17y ago

Can't agree more. Let's hope in the future we can choose to search for tech-specific results.

zackattack 17y ago
There's evidently a market for a tech-specific search engine..

NikkiA 17y ago

They'd probably do well to have a seperate 'technical search' for searching for things related to technical matters, eg programming languages, physics, chemistry, medicine, engineering, etc. And remove the casual stuff (facebook, myspace, pages that are clearly not about a technical subject, etc) from that index. It would probably be a highly praised feature to seperate off a second index like that, as specifically searching for programming language concepts and documentation can be difficult (the C# and .NET problem).

Perceval 17y ago
Having separate indexes and separate searches for sub-domains of knowledge is an interesting idea. The original idea of PageRank was that each link constituted a 'vote' for a page. Perhaps different epistemic communities on the internet use links to mean different things. So, the meaning of links on technical webpages is slightly different from the meaning of links on social websites. Interesting idea to play around with.
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coliveira 17y ago

Wait until they integrate twitter. It will be 99% real-time crap and 1% historical results... Google should just stay away from real time frenzy, or maybe fork the search engine to avoid disrupting the good results it has.

abstractbill 17y ago

Just out of interest, do you find lispdoc.com useful generally for this kind of thing?