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Nobody uses firefox anymore anyway so who cares?

madez 12y ago
I use firefox and I care.
51Cards 12y ago
As do I. Edit: realizing this was a very short out of context comment. I use Firefox exclusively on Desktop and >50% on Mobile. Seeing the browser market start to fragment again is quite concerning.
blablablaat 12y ago
I switched back to firefox after google turned evil.
vetinari 12y ago
I'm using Firefox and I care to have a browser, that does not spy on me.
- bighi 12y ago
  Oh no, not the spying argument again...
  - madez 12y ago
    I would like to understand you but I don't yet. Why do you refuse an argument just because it was used in another occasion? That appears to me to be a logical fallacy. Please correct me if I'm wrong. The heart of the argument - that is the demand not to be spied upon - seems to be to be perfectly reasonable and justified due to economic and security aspects. Care to weigh in?
    - bighi 12y ago
      Looking at English dictionaries I found two main meanings of spying: 1) Observing a target with hostile intents. 2) Acquiring and tracking information. Google has never been hostile towards me. I've never lost money because of Google, or had health damage, or had naked pictures of me released to the web, etc. No "harm" done to me by Google, either literal harm or figurative harm. So, number 2. If people are complaining of Google tracking information, 99% of things in your computer track your information. Even a simple 'sudo ls' in linux is tracking SOME information to allow you to run other sudo commands without inputting your password again for a while. A computer software that does not store information is usually quite limited. What harm (and I accept a loose definition of harm here) comes from Google remembering what search you did yesterday or when was the last time you logged on to gmail?
  - vetinari 12y ago
    The following Google APIs are used by Chrome and Chromium: - Chrome Remote Desktop - Chrome Spelling API - Chrome Suggest API - Chrome Sync API - Chrome Translate Element - Google Maps Geolocation API - Safe Browsing API - Speech API - Time Zone API - Google Cloud Messaging for Chrome - Drive API (Optional, enable this for Files.app on Chrome OS and SyncFileSystem API) - Google Now For Chrome API (Optional, enabled to show Google Now cards) - Google+ API Source: http://www.chromium.org/developers/how-tos/api-keys http://www.chromium.org/developers/how-tos/api-keys Google has a nice source of behavior data there. They also went out of way with annoying the user, if his build does not use the Google APIs (a notification, that cannot be permanently dismissed).
  - ProAm 12y ago
    What do you mean again? Did it ever go away?
gulbrandr 12y ago
I use firefox and I care a lot.
shogun21 12y ago
And I!
sospep 12y ago
11.9% desktop market share != nobody http://www.netmarketshare.com/browser-market-share.aspx?qprid=0&qpcustomd=0&qptimeframe=Y http://www.netmarketshare.com/browser-market-share.aspx?qpri...
- unreal37 12y ago
  According to your link, Firefox has 0.7% market share in mobile, which is the relevant metric to this post.
  - gcp 12y ago
    The Play Store (LOL) claims there's about 50M-100M users. It's up to you whether that counts as "nobody" or not.
    - lkbm 12y ago
      Downloads, not users.
realusername 12y ago
If you want to install extensions on a mobile device, there is no much choice.
omaranto 12y ago
On Android I would probably use Chrome if it weren't for a particular bug. I mean Chrome comes with my tablet and cannot be removed, so I'll use it unless I can't. But MathJax doesn't work in Chrome for Android and works just fine in Firefox for Android (it works in the desktop versions of both browsers). If faced with a choice between giving up a browser or giving mathematics, I'll choose the browser every time! :)

madez 12y ago

I use firefox and I care.

As do I. Edit: realizing this was a very short out of context comment. I use Firefox exclusively on Desktop and >50% on Mobile. Seeing the browser market start to fragment again is quite concerning.

blablablaat 12y ago

I switched back to firefox after google turned evil.

vetinari 12y ago

I'm using Firefox and I care to have a browser, that does not spy on me.

bighi 12y ago
Oh no, not the spying argument again...
- madez 12y ago
  I would like to understand you but I don't yet. Why do you refuse an argument just because it was used in another occasion? That appears to me to be a logical fallacy. Please correct me if I'm wrong. The heart of the argument - that is the demand not to be spied upon - seems to be to be perfectly reasonable and justified due to economic and security aspects. Care to weigh in?
  - bighi 12y ago
    Looking at English dictionaries I found two main meanings of spying: 1) Observing a target with hostile intents. 2) Acquiring and tracking information. Google has never been hostile towards me. I've never lost money because of Google, or had health damage, or had naked pictures of me released to the web, etc. No "harm" done to me by Google, either literal harm or figurative harm. So, number 2. If people are complaining of Google tracking information, 99% of things in your computer track your information. Even a simple 'sudo ls' in linux is tracking SOME information to allow you to run other sudo commands without inputting your password again for a while. A computer software that does not store information is usually quite limited. What harm (and I accept a loose definition of harm here) comes from Google remembering what search you did yesterday or when was the last time you logged on to gmail?
- vetinari 12y ago
  The following Google APIs are used by Chrome and Chromium: - Chrome Remote Desktop - Chrome Spelling API - Chrome Suggest API - Chrome Sync API - Chrome Translate Element - Google Maps Geolocation API - Safe Browsing API - Speech API - Time Zone API - Google Cloud Messaging for Chrome - Drive API (Optional, enable this for Files.app on Chrome OS and SyncFileSystem API) - Google Now For Chrome API (Optional, enabled to show Google Now cards) - Google+ API Source: http://www.chromium.org/developers/how-tos/api-keys http://www.chromium.org/developers/how-tos/api-keys Google has a nice source of behavior data there. They also went out of way with annoying the user, if his build does not use the Google APIs (a notification, that cannot be permanently dismissed).
- ProAm 12y ago
  What do you mean again? Did it ever go away?

gulbrandr 12y ago

I use firefox and I care a lot.

shogun21 12y ago

And I!

sospep 12y ago

11.9% desktop market share != nobody http://www.netmarketshare.com/browser-market-share.aspx?qprid=0&qpcustomd=0&qptimeframe=Y http://www.netmarketshare.com/browser-market-share.aspx?qpri...

unreal37 12y ago
According to your link, Firefox has 0.7% market share in mobile, which is the relevant metric to this post.
- gcp 12y ago
  The Play Store (LOL) claims there's about 50M-100M users. It's up to you whether that counts as "nobody" or not.
  - lkbm 12y ago
    Downloads, not users.

realusername 12y ago

If you want to install extensions on a mobile device, there is no much choice.

omaranto 12y ago

On Android I would probably use Chrome if it weren't for a particular bug. I mean Chrome comes with my tablet and cannot be removed, so I'll use it unless I can't. But MathJax doesn't work in Chrome for Android and works just fine in Firefox for Android (it works in the desktop versions of both browsers). If faced with a choice between giving up a browser or giving mathematics, I'll choose the browser every time! :)