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Ok, it's time for another (perhaps timely and relevant) debate about whether AI is going to destroy us or if The Robots are going to take over. Let me point to
by nakedrobot2 12y ago
Ok, it's time for another (perhaps timely and relevant) debate about whether AI is going to destroy us or if The Robots are going to take over.
Let me point to a great, great essay and debate that lays out lots of these arguments, and points out the fundamental mistakes that are being made when people bring up the fear over AI. Here is the most relevant quote, for me:
"let's address directly this problem of whether AI is going to destroy civilization and people, and take over the planet and everything. Here I want to suggest a simple thought experiment of my own. There are so many technologies I could use for this, but just for a random one, let's suppose somebody comes up with a way to 3-D print a little assassination drone that can go buzz around and kill somebody. Let's suppose that these are cheap to make.
I'm going to give you two scenarios. In one scenario, there's suddenly a bunch of these, and some disaffected teenagers, or terrorists, or whoever start making a bunch of them, and they go out and start killing people randomly. There's so many of them that it's hard to find all of them to shut it down, and there keep on being more and more of them. That's one scenario; it's a pretty ugly scenario.
There's another one where there's so-called artificial intelligence, some kind of big data scheme, that's doing exactly the same thing, that is self-directed and taking over 3-D printers, and sending these things off to kill people. The question is, does it make any difference which it is?
The truth is that the part that causes the problem is the actuator. It's the interface to physicality. It's the fact that there's this little killer drone thing that's coming around. It's not so much whether it's a bunch of teenagers or terrorists behind it or some AI, or even, for that matter, if there's enough of them, it could just be an utterly random process. The whole AI thing, in a sense, distracts us from what the real problem would be. The AI component would be only ambiguously there and of little importance.
This notion of attacking the problem on the level of some sort of autonomy algorithm, instead of on the actuator level is totally misdirected. This is where it becomes a policy issue. The sad fact is that, as a society, we have to do something to not have little killer drones proliferate. And maybe that problem will never take place anyway. What we don't have to worry about is the AI algorithm running them, because that's speculative. There isn't an AI algorithm that's good enough to do that for the time being. An equivalent problem can come about, whether or not the AI algorithm happens. In a sense, it's a massive misdirection.
This idea that some lab somewhere is making these autonomous algorithms that can take over the world is a way of avoiding the profoundly uncomfortable political problem, which is that if there's some actuator that can do harm, we have to figure out some way that people don't do harm with it. There are about to be a whole bunch of those. And that'll involve some kind of new societal structure that isn't perfect anarchy. Nobody in the tech world wants to face that, so we lose ourselves in these fantasies of AI. But if you could somehow prevent AI from ever happening, it would have nothing to do with the actual problem that we fear, and that's the sad thing, the difficult thing we have to face."
http://edge.org/conversation/the-myth-of-ai#26019 http://edge.org/conversation/the-myth-of-ai#26019
- imr_ 12y agoWhat I really fear is not that the AI will take a control and starts to kill humans. I fear that we will trust AI to the point that when it will tell us to kill each other and we will follow. Let AI decide whether to use solar enery or coal and when to switch. Let human decide about other human. AI should be our compass on a starless night, not the captain.
- thatsjustcrazy 12y agoThis is exactly what TLA systems are designed to do. They called them signature strikes.