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If you're an author, you can use Leanpub (https://leanpub.com/ https://leanpub.com/). We added #VATMOSS support, so you don't have to. We did this since we loo

If you're an author, you can use Leanpub (https://leanpub.com/ https://leanpub.com/). We added #VATMOSS support, so you don't have to. We did this since we looked at the situation and decided it was the correct thing to do for our authors, even though we're based in Canada with our servers in the USA, and with no physical presence in the EU whatsoever. We also added "bring your own book" support, so you can just upload your own PDF, EPUB and/or MOBI files instead of needing to use our (awesome, Markdown-based) book creation workflow.

jerf 12y ago
Would you be willing to share approximately what it costs you? I saw your post here and deleted-before-posting speculation that Patreon simply can't make the numbers sensibly work out (bearing in mind they have to grow by offering an attractive package to both those who donate and create; if, for instance, 50% of the "donations" go into tax compliance there simply won't be any donations anyhow), but if we can get real numbers that would be even better. Of course, that's assuming you have a similar problem to Patreon, where the author claims that every patron would be involved in the VATMOSS transaction, which I can't speak to at all. If it's just a line-item per book for you but a line item per EU patron for Patreon that's not comparable.
- peterarmstrong 12y ago
  We integrated Taxamo (http://www.taxamo.com/ http://www.taxamo.com/) into Leanpub, and their posted fees (http://www.taxamo.com/pricing/ http://www.taxamo.com/pricing/) start at 20 Euro cents for every EU transaction. Non-EU transactions are free. In terms of detecting whether the transaction is EU or not, there's a complicated workflow with 3 pieces of evidence etc, but (a) that's what Taxamo helps with and (b) if a bootstrapped Canadian startup can deal with this, presumably so could anyone else.
  - jerf 12y ago
    Thank you.

jerf 12y ago

Would you be willing to share approximately what it costs you? I saw your post here and deleted-before-posting speculation that Patreon simply can't make the numbers sensibly work out (bearing in mind they have to grow by offering an attractive package to both those who donate and create; if, for instance, 50% of the "donations" go into tax compliance there simply won't be any donations anyhow), but if we can get real numbers that would be even better. Of course, that's assuming you have a similar problem to Patreon, where the author claims that every patron would be involved in the VATMOSS transaction, which I can't speak to at all. If it's just a line-item per book for you but a line item per EU patron for Patreon that's not comparable.

peterarmstrong 12y ago
We integrated Taxamo (http://www.taxamo.com/ http://www.taxamo.com/) into Leanpub, and their posted fees (http://www.taxamo.com/pricing/ http://www.taxamo.com/pricing/) start at 20 Euro cents for every EU transaction. Non-EU transactions are free. In terms of detecting whether the transaction is EU or not, there's a complicated workflow with 3 pieces of evidence etc, but (a) that's what Taxamo helps with and (b) if a bootstrapped Canadian startup can deal with this, presumably so could anyone else.
- jerf 12y ago
  Thank you.