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I've signed offer letters and hired about 300 people in the last 5 years, and I still consider myself chief recruiter... Two comments: 1) This is obnoxious in
by davidu 12y ago
I've signed offer letters and hired about 300 people in the last 5 years, and I still consider myself chief recruiter...
Two comments:
1) This is obnoxious in the sense that it's placing a bar that other candidates don't, and it's lacking context I'd prefer to provide over a phone call. For instance, equity at our company is typically quite different than equity at other companies. Not all equity is created equal, and our cap table is very clean.
2) For the right candidate, I'd still make a best effort to fill it out despite the aforementioned comment.
To me the most broken part of recruiting is the third-party recruiting process, and yet, we still use them, because they do occasionally bring in great candidates we would otherwise miss.
- Zigurd 12y agoMy initial reaction was "obnoxious," too, but he finishes on a high note: Asking for the hiring manager, his title, etc. Obviously this form could use improvement. For example, without knowing the percentage of shares outstanding and stock classes, having a number of options is meaningless. But it is more in the right direction than not.
- hippich 12y agoNice to see recruiter's side! I bet if I would receive email from you, I would not respond with link to this form :) This idea started as a joke, and more people liked it so I made it standalone :)
- hga 12y agoPersonally, both from experience long ago, and from what I gather is the case today with exits being difficult and good ones very rare, I'd make the stock options a "Equity" check box, and include a text box with a politely worded version of "If you wish, please tell me why the discounted value of the equity is not essentially zero or negative...." The negative is because they can be a motivation to fire an employee just before they become worth something, e.g. in the most infamous case: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Reid_(computer_scientist)#Google https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Reid_(computer_scientist...
- jimmydddd 12y ago@davidu: I have friends who apply to companies through the company recruiting Web sites. Even when they are great fits for a position, and it would be better to discuss the matter, they are still forced to fill out numerous fields without any "context." So, if nothing else, maybe forms like this will make companies rethink their own recruiting Web pages.
- davidu 12y agoI do not disagree w/ you. I do 99% of my recruiting with a hand-written email from an email I find on linkedin, github, or a personal webpage.